Bren and Lenno pick up a conversation they'd normally have only behind closed doors, "what AI actually costs and what happens when the bill comes due?"

Starting with pricing (why token costs, like mortgage rates or SaaS subscriptions, are unlikely to stay this low), is a price hike inevitable? And what happens if you have AI in critical processes when costs skyrocket?!

A question that hits hard was if agentic AI can do the work of offshore teams, what happens to the people behind those jobs, and whose responsibility is it to plan for that?

Warm, unscripted, and more than a little uneasy by the end.