Lucas and Cail catch-up (in-person at long last!) for an in-depth look at the biggest album of the 1960s. Cail springs a surprise on Lucas, Lucas talks about the highs of being a lead singer/songwriter and they debut a new segment, "Tasty Treats."

There's a good chance you listened to "Give Up" back in 2003. It was everywhere, from the beaches of Orange County to the dorm rooms of British Columbia. Lucas and Cail discuss their feelings on this seminal indie-pop record, the story of how they first became friends and why you shouldn't date Ben Gibbard.

• Spotify playlist of Heroes and Notable Mentions

POW! Lucas and Cail join the RTJ revolution. Join us for a discussion of American hip-hop duo Run the Jewels, which consists of rappers El-P and Killer Mike. They scorch the earth with their third record, calling for blood and looking for hope. Listen to Lucas and Cail poorly recite their favorite lyrics.

Note: This episode was recorded on March 31, 2020, before the tragic death of George Floyd at the hands of the police. AvA supports Black Lives Matter and RTJ is the protest music of our current times.

Links:

• Pitchfork review of RTJ3 we reference.
• Our barber's Instagram.
• Spotify playlist of "Hero Songs" and notable tracks.
• Killer Mike's Emotional Speech at Atlanta Mayor's Press Conference
• Donate to the Hogan's Alley Society, which advocates for Black Vancouverites who have endured the legacies of urban renewal and their erasure from the official historical narrative.

Lucas and Cail take a trip back to 1970 when Loaded, the fourth studio album by The Velvet Underground, is released. Find out if it's "loaded with hits" as Atlantic Records said, and hear their shock in learning just how much Doug Yule contributed to this record.

We made a Spotify playlist for you here. Give it a follow.

White Light/White Heat: The Velvet Underground Day-by-Day by Richie Unterberger is a key book we reference throughout the episode. Very in-depth, check it out if you're a VU fan.