All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio with Pamela L Henderson

All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio with Pamela L Henderson

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  • All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio, September 29, 2026
    All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio with Pamela L Henderson
    Ending Period Poverty Through Reusable Menstrual Cups, Discs, and Underwear with Cherie Hoeger
    Host Pamela L. Henderson talks with Saalt co-founder and CEO Cherie Hoeger about ending period poverty, the reusable menstrual cups, discs, and underwear her company designs, and why she champions work-life integration over balance.
    A Warm Welcome And Introduction
    Pamela L. Henderson opens the broadcast on BBS Radio, describing All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio as a platform she built since 2011 around social growth and inspiring young people to become leaders. She invites listeners to join her broadcasts and directs them to journeyofasapphire.com and allroads65max.org. Henderson introduces her guest, Cherie Hoeger, co-founder and CEO of Saalt, a woman-owned B Corp founded in 2018 with a mission to end period poverty. She notes that Saalt has donated over 160,000 period products across dozens of countries and funded more than 1.3 million days of school for girls, and that Hoeger, a mother of six, believes in work-life integration rather than balance. Hoeger thanks Henderson for the invitation, and the two begin with easygoing small talk about Boise, Idaho, where Hoeger lives, its potatoes, rivers, skiing, and outdoor culture, before turning to the interview.
    A Family Story Sparks An Idea
    Hoeger traces Saalt's origin to a conversation with her husband's aunt in Venezuela, who described being unable to find food or basic personal care items, let alone pads and tampons, on store shelves. Investigating reusable options, Hoeger discovered menstrual cups, discs, and period underwear for the first time in her thirties and was startled that cups and discs hold four to six times more than tampons, can last up to ten years, and felt so comfortable she would forget she was on her period. Researching further, she learned the Venezuelan shortage reflected a global problem called period poverty, affecting an estimated 500 million women and girls who lack access to safe products and are forced to use banana leaves, torn mattress padding, paper, or soil and ash. She realized that school drop-out rates rise sharply once girls hit puberty without access to period care, and felt what she calls a moral obligation to act, which led her to found Saalt in 2018.
    A Live Look At The Products
    At Henderson's request, Hoeger brings her product table on camera and walks through Saalt's line: menstrual cups that collect flow after being folded and inserted, discs that sit higher in the posterior fornix and can hold up to six times a tampon's capacity, and period underwear built with a patented gusset technology as thin as a nickel. She explains that cups can be worn up to twelve hours on lighter days and need emptying every four to six hours on heavy days, while discs work well for people with a weak pelvic floor or an IUD and can allow for mess-free period sex. The underwear, she says, replaces pads entirely, wicking moisture away through channels that keep the wearer dry. Hoeger describes designing a teen line for her five daughters, who use discs and underwear together, and a postpartum boyshort she wore herself, adding that the underwear also helps with bladder leaks during perimenopause.
    Fourteen Prototypes And Safety Questions
    Hoeger explains that Saalt's products went through fourteen design iterations with a freelance 3D CAD designer before reaching the flagship cup, and that the patented gusset technology took four years to develop with textile consultants at NC State's Wilson College of Textiles and forensics experts who study blood and fabric. She addresses toxic shock syndrome directly, explaining that TSS results from staph bacteria entering the bloodstream, often through micro-tearing caused by the oversized super tampons blamed for outbreaks in the 1980s, rather than simply from leaving a product in too long. Because cups and discs are soft and moldable, she says, they cause far less micro-tearing than tampons, making TSS much less common, though not impossible with any product. Hoeger cites an internal study of 188 participants who switched from tampons to cups, in which fewer than ten percent found the switch difficult, and says nine out of ten users never return to disposable products.
    Stigma, Empowerment, And Integration Over Balance
    Asked about Saalt's biggest challenges, Hoeger points to marketing and stigma, noting her background as a technical writer for health and fitness textbooks helps her explain complicated products simply. She says advertising restrictions sometimes ban Saalt from using words like period or vagina, even in straightforward health messaging, though she credits Gen Z and Gen Alpha with being far more open about periods, fertility, and bladder leaks than earlier generations. Hoeger and Henderson agree that empowering individuals, more than government or corporate programs, creates lasting ripple effects, since one donated cup or pair of underwear can change a life, a family, and eventually a community. Hoeger also describes rejecting the idea of perfect work-life balance in favor of what she calls work-life integration, citing her company's in-office preschool, walking treadmills, and flexible scheduling that let her be present for both her business and her six children, including her four-year-old son.
    Closing Advice And Where To Find Saalt
    Nearing the end of the conversation, Henderson and Hoeger touch briefly on two questions drawn from prepared notes, about a health data platform and a guest named David Wilson, that Hoeger says do not match her own experience, and the two agree to move on. Hoeger closes with advice for aspiring entrepreneurs, quoting Oprah Winfrey's line that the biggest adventure is to live the life of your dreams, and urging listeners not to let imposter syndrome or a lack of formal credentials stop them from pursuing a cause they believe in. Henderson reflects briefly on her own path since founding her program in 2011 and her work with her grandson. Hoeger directs listeners to saalt.com and the handle Saalt Co on Instagram, TikTok, and LinkedIn, and notes Saalt products are sold at Target, Walmart, Costco, and Amazon. Henderson closes the broadcast with a quote from Hoeger about underfunded women's health research and thanks her guest before signing off.
    52 min
  • All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio, September 22, 2026
    All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio with Pamela L Henderson
    Girl Empowerment, Sierra Leone Diplomacy, and Resilience at the United Nations with Judy Kuriansky
    Host Pamela L. Henderson talks with UN advisor and clinical psychologist Dr. Judy Kuriansky about girl empowerment, Sierra Leone's Hands Off Our Girls campaign, resilience after trauma, and using music and diplomacy to build peace.
    A Warm Welcome And Introduction
    Pamela L. Henderson opens the broadcast on BBS Radio, describing All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio as a platform she built since 2011 around social growth and leadership for young people. She invites listeners to her Tuesday broadcasts and points them to journeyofasapphire.com and allroadslead65max.org. Henderson then introduces her guest, Dr. Judy Kuriansky, calling her an internationally known clinical psychologist, author, humanitarian, media personality, musician, and philanthropist who serves as an advisor to the Mission of the Republic of Sierra Leone at the United Nations. Henderson notes that Kuriansky once climbed Mount Kilimanjaro all the way to the summit, framing her as an example of endurance and determination. Kuriansky thanks Henderson for the invitation and says the show's focus on girl empowerment speaks directly to her own work, calling empowerment the word most critical to self-esteem, to fulfilling dreams, and, expanded outward, to peace in the world.
    A Journey Into Sierra Leone
    Kuriansky explains that at the United Nations she advocates for mental health and for Sustainable Development Goal five, the empowerment and rights of women and girls agreed to by 193 countries, and that she works closely with the first lady of Sierra Leone. Asked by Henderson to trace that journey, Kuriansky recalls a Peace Corps friend inviting her to Sierra Leone during the AIDS era, where she did radio outreach with young people for the organization Search for Common Ground. A Sierra Leonean friend was later named ambassador to the United States, and Kuriansky became his policy advisor, learning about poverty and energy issues alongside psychology. She returned during the Ebola outbreak that struck Sierra Leone, Liberia, and Guinea. She describes the first lady, once forced into early marriage herself, winning a UN resolution establishing an international day against child, early, and forced marriage, and a Sierra Leonean law allowing up to fifteen years in prison for perpetrators of sexual violence, giving legal teeth to access to justice.
    Resilience Lessons And Girl Empowerment Programs
    Henderson praises Kuriansky's emphasis on resilience, a value central to her own foundation, and Kuriansky illustrates the concept with an exercise she uses with children after disasters: bounce a ball and watch it return, then strike it harder and watch it bounce higher, proof that people can come back from crisis even stronger. Henderson asks about the first lady's Hands Off Our Girls campaign, and Kuriansky explains it targets violence against girls that drives them out of school, and includes distributing sanitary pads so girls can keep attending and building self-esteem. Henderson describes her own program, which serves girls from fourteen into adulthood, many transitioning out of foster care, domestic violence, trafficking, truancy, or family breakdown. Through her company, 65 Max Corporation, its production arm, a clothing line, and her foundation, she teaches customer service skills that build integrity, confidence, and accountability, and graduates can earn certification and apply for jobs within her organization, turning training directly into employment.
    Surviving Trauma, Saving A Grandson
    Henderson shares the story behind her foundation: in 2009 her daughter, then twenty-one and raising two children alone, survived a harsh domestic violence relationship that led to her children being removed from her home. Barred from stepping in to help directly, Henderson fought for her grandchildren while facing vandalism to her car and home, tampered bank accounts, and what she describes as a year of gang stalking and bullying, living on little more than water and bread. She says a conversation with God set her on the path that became All Roads Lead 65 Max Foundation. Henderson recounts winning guardianship of her grandson in 2017 after finding him with failing eyesight, poor dental health, and a nerve twitch from prior neglect; she dismissed the doctors treating him with medication and instead gave him love, guidance, and direction, and he is now eighteen, thriving, and doing well in school. Kuriansky calls it a story of survival and thriving, and connects it to her own volunteer support work at Ground Zero after September 11th.
    Music, Diplomacy, And Global Honors
    Kuriansky describes one of her proudest programs, The Girls' Empowerment Camp in Lesotho, where she used affirmations, dance, and storytelling to help girls address the dangers of AIDS and build self-worth. She credits her songwriting partner, musician Russell Daisey, a former student who asked her to write psychologically sound lyrics after September 11th; together they wrote Towers of Light, Hands Off Our Girls, One in Faith, Hope Is Alive, and Stand Up for Peace. As a founding member of Women for Diplomacy International, Kuriansky recently traveled to Budapest to read peace poetry with the group's co-founder, a former Hungarian ambassador to the UN. She lists honors including the Grand Commander of the Order of the Rokel from Sierra Leone's president, a Presidential award for volunteer service from President Biden, and induction into the eMentalHealth International Hall of Fame, framing recognition as rooted in a principle from Japanese psychology: appreciating what people do, however small, rather than waiting for grand achievement.
    Pioneering Advice Radio And What's Next
    Henderson turns to Kuriansky's decades as a pioneer of call-in radio advice, which began in 1980 after she evaluated sex therapy research for Masters and Johnson and wrote about pleasure for Cosmopolitan magazine, eventually hosting nightly advice shows and a Z100 program featuring celebrity guests. Asked why empowerment matters now, Kuriansky points to wars, personal fears, and anxiety over artificial intelligence, insisting that human connection cannot be replaced by machines, a concern Henderson shares even as her own foundation uses AI alongside live customer-service support. Kuriansky outlines what is next: working with Sierra Leone's first lady at the UN General Assembly, finishing a book, and performing songs including Towers of Light and Stand Up for Peace at a Times Square concert with Russell Daisey. She directs listeners to her website, drjudy.com, and to Black Tie Magazine for her writing. Henderson thanks her guest warmly, and closes the broadcast with a quote about loving fully, living gently, and gracefully letting go of what was never meant to stay.
    1 hr
  • All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio, August 18, 2026
    Breaking Glass, Building Belonging: Wanda Herndon on Leadership, Resilience, and the Power of Yes
    From Flint to Corporate Leadership
    Wanda Herndon reflects on growing up in a working-class family in Flint, Michigan, and on the influence of her father, who wanted his children to obtain “office jobs” and become decision-makers. She describes her father’s work at General Motors, his expectations for his family, and the ambition that pushed her to imagine a life beyond her neighborhood. She explains that hearing “no” became a source of motivation rather than defeat and that leaving Flint opened her to mentors, opportunities, and experiences that shaped her leadership path. Her story connects family sacrifice, personal discipline, and the willingness to pursue possibilities beyond familiar surroundings.
    The Great Migration and Family Legacy
    Herndon discusses her father’s move from the Jim Crow South to Flint as part of the Great Migration and explains how understanding that history changed the way she saw her family’s place in America. She presents his bus journey as a pivotal act that helped position the family for employment, home ownership, education, and greater opportunity. The conversation also explores the decline of Flint after General Motors reduced its presence and the emotional impact of watching a once-thriving community struggle. Both women connect their family histories to broader questions of Black community development, resilience, and the importance of building opportunities for future generations.
    Becoming the CEO of Yourself
    A recurring theme is self-leadership. Herndon describes herself as the “CEO of me,” meaning that she refuses to allow other people to define her or determine what choices are available to her. She recalls the financial stress she experienced at Michigan State University and explains how asking a roommate for help taught her resourcefulness and removed her fear of seeking assistance. The women discuss the importance of asking questions, learning from others, and moving through imposter syndrome without giving up. For Herndon, responsibility to her family and to those coming behind her became a powerful reason to continue even when she doubted herself.
    Communication, Authenticity, and Belonging
    Herndon explains how her journalism training became the foundation of her corporate communications career. She argues that businesses depend on clear communication with employees, customers, communities, and the wider world, and that poor communication often lies behind organizational problems. The discussion turns to authenticity, directness, and the challenge of speaking hard truths without diminishing other people. Herndon says she learned to be a straight-talking professional who could disagree respectfully, while Henderson emphasizes using lived experience to communicate honestly. Both women connect effective communication to belonging, confidence, and the ability to navigate difficult situations.
    Leadership, Culture, and the Power of Yes
    The interview contrasts bosses with leaders and explores what healthy organizational culture looks like. Herndon says leaders give people room to create, grow, contribute, and share in success, while command-and-control management can reduce people to simply following instructions. She describes the culture she experienced at Starbucks as one in which people cared for one another, shared in the company’s success, and knew that they belonged. The conversation also examines employee retention, customer service, workplace “vibe,” and the importance of listening to people and acting on their ideas. The phrase “just say yes” becomes a symbol of service, possibility, persistence, and moving around obstacles instead of being stopped by them.
    Breaking Glass and Giving Back
    Herndon discusses her memoir, Working Class to Breaking Glass, as a combination of personal story, family history, and leadership reflection. Rather than giving readers a formula for success, she shares how she navigated her own journey and hopes others will take what they need from it. She offers several “Wanda-isms,” including looking up instead of backward, being fearless but smart, helping others, remaining the CEO of yourself, and remembering that you are worthy. Henderson connects those ideas to her own foundation work, mentoring, trauma recovery, and writing. The episode closes with a shared emphasis on resilience, confidence, service, and Herndon’s word of the day: “Fight”—fight for what is yours, keep moving, and do not allow other people to stop you.
    SEO Keywords / Key Phrases
    women in leadership, corporate communications, workplace belonging, Black women executives, Great Migration history, authentic leadership, overcoming imposter syndrome, organizational culture, trauma recovery and accountability, breaking the glass ceiling
    1 hr 6 min
  • All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio, August 11, 2026
    Guest, Bethany Shelton is the founder of Bee Limitless Now and the creator of The Presence Effect™. She is a transformational speaker, breakthrough facilitator, and coach dedicated to helping people uncover the subconscious patterns, emotional conditioning, and survival programming that quietly influence their thoughts, behaviors, and life experiences.
    Breaking the Pattern: Awareness, Empowerment, and Turning Pain Into Purpose
    From Pain to Purpose
    Bethany Shelton describes Be Limitless as a company created from lived experience rather than theory. She says the work grew out of confronting major trauma, developing greater self-awareness, and discovering what she sees as purpose within pain. Pamela Henderson responds to the idea of “pain to purpose,” and the two discuss how difficult experiences can look meaningless while someone is still going through them. Bethany says that after coming through painful circumstances, a person may begin asking “Why not me?” rather than “Why me?” She connects that shift with faith, self-connection, and viewing painful experiences as teachers.
    Breaking Repeating Patterns
    A major theme of the conversation is the recognition and interruption of repeating behavior. Bethany recounts being diagnosed with ADD at age eight, being prescribed medication, and later struggling with alcohol and other drugs. She says she eventually recognized cycles in her own choices and decided she was “sick and tired of being sick and tired.” In her account, awareness of personal choice became the point at which she stopped identifying only as a victim of circumstances and began deliberately choosing different behavior. Pamela connects this theme to changes she has made in her own diet and alcohol use as she has grown older.
    Presence, Choice, and the Heart
    Bethany argues that people must first empower themselves before they can meaningfully empower others. She describes empowerment as presence, awareness, compassion, and self-knowledge rather than domination. The conversation then turns to Pamela’s recurring experience with people who she says have invited her to participate with the UN while repeatedly asking her to pay fees. Bethany interprets Pamela’s discomfort as evidence that Pamela already recognizes an unhealthy pattern and encourages her to trust that awareness. Bethany also describes “dropping into the heart” as a way of becoming present and deciding whether to react through an old pattern or respond differently.
    Changing Habits Through Awareness
    Bethany discusses thoughts, habits, beliefs, and the nervous system as influences on everyday experience. She proposes intentionally changing small routines—such as stepping out of bed with the opposite foot or brushing one’s teeth with the nondominant hand—as a way to interrupt automatic behavior and become more present. In her coaching approach, she says clients examine self-talk, habitual thought patterns, and what she calls energetic influences. Pamela relates this to her own work with women who have experienced trauma and says group conversations can help participants leave with a renewed mindset. Both speakers repeatedly emphasize noticing what one is thinking rather than allowing thought patterns to run unnoticed.
    Confidence, Authenticity, and Coaching
    Pamela and Bethany discuss confidence, integrity, and the way confident women may sometimes be perceived by others. Pamela describes herself as someone who does not need the world to applaud her because she can affirm herself, while Bethany distinguishes between thinking one is confident and embodying confidence. Bethany says authenticity is central to her outlook and encourages people not to base their identity on what others think or say about them. She describes her eight-week Power Journey course as focused on body awareness, thought observation, personal programming, energy, frequency, and what she calls energy hygiene. She also recounts exercises and experiments involving plants, words, water, and energetic fields as examples of the framework she shares with clients.
    Grief, Belief, and Moving Forward
    Bethany reveals that she lost her only child in 2020 and says that loss became the catalyst for a deeper journey of knowing herself. She explains that she chose not to conform to what she calls society’s expected image of a grieving mother and instead focused on connection, awareness, and continuing to live. The conversation returns to Pamela’s UN-related dilemma, with Bethany suggesting that rejection can sometimes function as redirection and Pamela concluding that the recurring situation has become draining and must end. Bethany closes by emphasizing belief, self-observation, and the idea that a thought is not automatically the truth. Her final message is that becoming aware of what one thinks, feels, believes, and wants to achieve can change how one experiences life.
    SEO Keywords / Key Phrases
    self-awareness, breaking repeating patterns, personal empowerment, pain to purpose, transformational coaching, nervous system awareness, self-talk and mindset, confidence and authenticity, grief and personal growth, energy frequency and vibration
    54 min
  • All Roads Lead 65 Max Radio, July 7, 2026
    Blood Fake, Stolen Valor, and the Fight to Protect Vulnerable Families
    A Mission-Driven Conversation About Trauma and Truth
    Pamela L. Henderson opens the episode by introducing All-Roads Lead 65 Max Radio and her mission of creating quality of life through social growth, partnerships, leadership, and community involvement. Her guest, David Wilson, joins the show to discuss his book Blood Fake and the personal story behind it. The interview centers on stolen valor, family trauma, domestic abuse, grief, and Wilson’s desire to educate the public while calling for greater accountability when false military-heroism claims are used to emotionally manipulate vulnerable people.
    The Meaning Behind Blood Fake
    Wilson explains that Blood Fake refers to an alleged act of military heroism in which, according to him, no blood was ever shed because the story never happened. He defines stolen valor as a false claim of military heroism used to elevate a person’s reputation, whether by a veteran or a non-veteran. Wilson says his sister believed a dramatic war-hero story told by her husband, and he argues that this false identity became a powerful tool of control because it made him appear heroic, damaged, and deserving of protection.
    A Sister’s Decline and a Brother’s Fight to Intervene
    A major portion of the episode focuses on Wilson’s account of his sister’s relationship, health decline, suicide attempt, and eventual suicide. He describes how he tried to involve police, domestic-abuse personnel, hospital social workers, and administrators after her first attempt because he believed she needed protection from her husband’s influence. Wilson says that officials hid behind HIPAA concerns and failed to intervene in the way he hoped. He preserves his sister’s words through emails, texts, and a suicide letter, while expressing deep frustration that her allegations were not taken more seriously.
    Recognizing Manipulation, Isolation, and Targeting
    Wilson and Henderson discuss how vulnerable women can be targeted by manipulative partners who recognize loneliness, desperation, and the desire for love or stability. Wilson says his sister had what a friend called a “broken man picker,” and he describes a pattern in which the man allegedly isolated women from their families, relied on hero-victim stories, gained financially, and used a supposed PTSD narrative as a shield against accountability. Henderson relates the discussion to her own advocacy work with women, young girls, domestic violence, and self-accountability.
    Veterans, Military Honor, and the Danger of False Claims
    The conversation moves into military life, veterans, and why stolen valor matters. Wilson says stolen valor dishonors genuine service, erodes trust, and can create broader risks when impostors gain access to credibility or authority. He says true military heroes rarely initiate stories of their own heroism, and he advises listeners to be cautious when they hear dramatic claims in public or social settings. Wilson also reflects on his own brief military experience, saying it gave him greater respect for those who complete service and sacrifice for the military.
    A Call for Awareness, Forgiveness, and Better Protection
    The episode concludes with Wilson explaining how listeners can find Blood Fake and contact him through AuthorHouse or BBS Radio. He says the book was difficult to write because it involved grief, anger, and painful family memories, but he hopes it becomes a word-of-mouth warning for women, families, and people dealing with manipulative relationships. Henderson frames the book as a wake-up call for women and young girls who have experienced relationship trauma. Wilson’s closing message is that targeted women deserve better, and Henderson ends by emphasizing courage, bravery, and the need to take a stand.
    SEO Keywords / Key Phrases
    stolen valor, Blood Fake book, domestic abuse, relationship trauma, military heroism claims, emotional manipulation, vulnerable women, family intervention, Christian forgiveness, veteran honor
    1 hr 16 min

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