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This marks the end of an era as we share our final episode of ALL THE F*CK IN. Tune in to hear us talk about how we made the bittersweet decision to bring the podcast to a conclusion, where we’re each redirecting our creative energies, and what we learned from this journey together.
Above all, we’re grateful to YOU for being on this journey with us, whether you’ve been listening, sharing episodes, and even supporting us on Patreon. This community is our favorite part of podcasting, and we know this isn’t goodbye!
Stay connected with Tristan & Lauren:
- Tristan’s website
- Tristan’s Instagram
- Tristan’s upcoming events
- Lauren’s website
- Lauren’s digital gift cards
- Lauren’s podcast, It’s Not You, It’s the System
Get an official ALL THE F*CK IN sticker (now a collectors’ item)!
- Step 1: Send us $5 to $10 to help cover us cover costs of producing the podcast since 2020 and keep our episodes available in the future, too.
- Step 2: Share your mailing address.
- Step 3: Check your mailbox at the end of the year and rejoice!
Resources + teachers mentioned:
- Look up whose land you’re on
- Amplify Restorative Justice
- Donate to support Club Q victims and survivors here and here
- Support the Native American Youth and Family Center
- Support brother jeff’s Cultural Center in Denver
- Raudhah Rahman design
+ CLICK HERE TO ACCESS A TRANSCRIPT OF THIS RECORDING
Thanks to Son of Nun and DJ Mentos for the music. You can find their work at sonofnun.bandcamp.com and djmentos.com.
Drum roll, please… we are so excited to share this inspiring conversation with Michelle Cassandra Johnson and Tema Okun. From the very beginning of this podcast, we’ve named Michelle’s work throughout and, of course, our longtime listeners will also recall our early interview with Michelle on episode 5 (linked below). Since that initial conversation, we’ve dreamt of having Michelle back on with her dear friend and colleague, Tema Okun.
You might know Tema’s name from the now-somewhat-famous-in-certain-circles resource, the Characteristics of White Supremacy Culture article (also linked below)—for many, a guiding document outlining the insidious ways white supremacy shows up in our cultural narratives, practices, and norms. Tema’s work has been pivotal, for decades, and recently gained increased attention amidst the BLM uprising of 2020. As many white folks “go back to sleep” in the aftermath of that uprising, Tema’s role as a decades-long facilitator of anti-racism work models something significant: what it looks like for white folks to show up over and over again, over long periods of time, and the practice of centering love, compassion, and humanity in our efforts to challenge and dismantle systemic and cultural racism.
This conversation is an invitation to do just that—to stay in relationship, to understand our roles, and to work across lines of difference to create collective liberation.
Tune in, ya’ll.
Tema and Michelle discuss…
- Visions for the future of this work and reflections on its evolution
- The importance of not leaving anyone behind
- What it looks like for white folks to get out of the way
- Challenging individualism and ego
- The complexities of lineages, legacies, and accreditation in social justice praxis
- Cross-difference relationship
- Boundaries as a form of self and collective-care
…and so much more…
Connect with Michelle & Tema:
Michelle’s website
Michelle’s Instagram
Join Michelle on Patreon
Tema’s website
Tema’s Instagram
Tema’s book, The Emperor Has No Clothes: Teaching About Race And Racism To People Who Don't Want To Know
Resources Mentioned:
ALL THE F*CK IN Episode 5: Remembering to Dream with Michelle C. Johnson
Prepping for the Apocalypse Means Building Community podcast episode
Original Characteristics of White Supremacy Culture article, written by Tema and colleagues
Revised White Supremacy Culture Characteristics / new website from Tema
Finding Refuge podcast episode with Tema
Dismantling Racism Works, dRworks
Michelle’s next book, We Heal Together
Be sure to subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and leave us 5-star rating and review on Apple to help other folks find us.
We’d also love for you to take a screenshot of where the episode resonates with you and tag us in your Instagram stories at @alltfinpodcast, @tristankatzcreative, and @laurenkayroberts.
+ CLICK HERE TO ACCESS A TRANSCRIPT OF THIS RECORDING
Thanks to Son of Nun and DJ Mentos for the music. You can find their work at sonofnun.bandcamp.com and djmentos.com.
Today’s convo with Abbiola Ballah (she/her) is E V E R Y T H I N G. She’s a true bridge-builder and translator in every sense of the word. And her inclusive action consulting business’s tagline, “Be part of the solution,” says it all.
Tune in to hear us talk about…
- Abbiola’s experience from growing up in Trinidad to spending most of her adult years as an immigrant in Japan, Belize, and the U.S.
- What it was like to leave home for Japan after a major loss in her family
- How she realized that what she’d always been doing was inclusion work, even before she had the language for it
- The ways that serving as an English language educator and working in international higher education showed her how much she cares about making everyone feel like they belong
- The loneliness and the beauty of doing the “brave” thing and making different choices than the folks around you
- Why inclusion is truly a journey, not a goal we achieve
And more!
Connect with Abbiola:
- Book your free Taking Inclusive Action Clarity Call to determine where you are in your inclusion journey how Abbiola can support you moving forward.
- Check out her website and join her email list to learn about her upcoming offers!
- Follow her business on Instagram.
- Connect with her on LinkedIn.
Connect with Lauren:
- Schedule a free Change Agent Support Call to learn whether community coaching, 1:1 support, and/or copywriting services from Lauren are a good fit to help you move your community change-making forward.
- Join Lauren for her two-part workshop Boundaries for the Empathic, Neurodivergent, & Anxiously Attached — just in time for that year-end burn-out and holiday messiness.
- Tune in to her new podcast, It’s Not You, It’s the System.
- Lauren’s on an Instagram break, but you can email her here.
Connect with Tristan:
- Check out Creating Safer Spaces: Embodying your Commitment to Trans Inclusion. This 12-hour online training to foster trans and queer competency kicks off in January 2023.
- Reach out to Tristan to learn other ways they can support you as a digital strategist and equity-inclusion facilitator.
- Follow Tristan on Instagram.
Be sure to subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and leave us 5-star rating and review on Apple to help other folks find us.
We’d also love for you to take a screenshot of where the episode resonates with you and tag us in your Instagram stories at @alltfinpodcast, @tristankatzcreative, and @laurenkayroberts.
Here is a transcript of this recording.
Thanks to Son of Nun and DJ Mentos for the music. You can find their work at sonofnun.bandcamp.com and djmentos.com.
Just a quick update from Tristan and Lauren about when new episodes are coming your way and how we can support you in the meantime.
Connect with Tristan:
-Learn about Tristan’s Yoga, Social Justice, & Marketing mentorship.
-Join them October 6 for the workshop Creating a New Offering: from Idea to Launch.
-Sign up for the program Art of Skillful Facilitation: Presencing Race, Gender, & Collective Healing, featuring Michelle Cassandra Johnson, Tristan (of course!), Stephanie Ghoston Paul, May Nicholson, and Rebby Kern. It begins October 26.
-Reach out to Tristan to learn other ways they can support you as a digital strategist and equity-inclusion facilitator.
-Follow Tristan on Instagram.
Connect with Lauren:
-Schedule a free Change Agent Support Call with Lauren to learn about working together to get messy family stuff and internalized oppression out of the way of your community change-making.
-Lauren’s on an Instagram break, but you can email her here.
Here is a transcript of this recording.
We’ve got another Transcend Your Dichotomy crossover episode for you this week, this time featuring Tristan in conversation with Brooke back in early 2022!
Tune in to hear Tristan and Brooke talk about...
-Tristan’s nonlinear career path, from journalism to yoga to woodworking (marketing and back-end biz, not the actual craft!) to what they offer today as an equity-inclusion facilitator and marketing strategist
-How to keep following the thread of your values that will lead you to what comes next
-Bringing an anti-oppression lens to their work, whatever form it’s taking at the time
-How community support has helped Tristan share parts of their identities, such as being trans and Jewish, that didn’t initially feel safe to put out there
-Breaking through the fear of losing potential income as a result of staying true to yourself (hint: it doesn’t work that way!)
-Being with grief and moving through burnout
-And more!
Connect with Tristan:
-Join them October 6 for the workshop Creating a New Offering: from Idea to Launch.
-Sign up for the program Art of Skillful Facilitation: Presencing Race, Gender, & Collective Healing, featuring Michelle Cassandra Johnson, Tristan (of course!), Stephanie Ghoston Paul, May Nicholson, and Rebby Kern. It begins October 26.
-Reach out to Tristan to learn other ways they can support you as a digital strategist and equity-inclusion facilitator.
Connect with Brooke:
-Tune in to Transcend Your Dichotomy Podcast (new episodes every week!).
-Learn about all the ways you can work with Brooke.
Connect with Lauren:
-Schedule a free call to learn how Lauren can support you with embodying the community change agent you already are.
-Check out TAKE UP SPACE, an anticapitalist course and community to do the inner, relational, and collective work to impact your community — regardless of your messy family background or cultural conditioning.
You can support this podcast by joining us on Patreon for as little as $2/month! Your support helps us continue to host impactful conversations, and patrons receive perks such as bonus content, video podcasts, special discounts on workshops, and so much more!
Be sure to subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and leave a 5-star rating and review on Apple.
We’d also love for you to take a screenshot of where the episode resonates with you and tag us in your Instagram stories at @alltfinpodcast, @tristankatzcreative, and @laurenkayroberts.
Here is a transcript of this episode.
Thanks to Son of Nun and DJ Mentos for the music. You can find their work at sonofnun.bandcamp.com and djmentos.com.
While Lauren settles into her new apartment and Tristan completes their cross-country road trip, we’re bringing you special crossover episodes we were part of on our dear friend Brooke Monaghan’s podcast Transcend Your Dichotomy!
This week’s features a conversation Lauren and Brooke had back in the spring of 2022, when Lauren was transitioning her anticapitalist course and community TAKE UP SPACE to a new, evergreen model for the first time.
Tune in to hear us talk about...
-Lauren’s story of learning to take up space and recovering from the toxic world of Democratic politics and establishment, “progressive” nonprofits
-How getting fired in 2016 initially forced her to embrace entrepreneurship
-The ways that trauma, disabilities, and other challenges can make working for other people feel impossible (and the privilege some of us have to exit shitty work situations)
-How perfectionism gets in the way of making big, meaningful changes
-Trusting yourself, even when you’re not sure of the outcome
-The evolution of our relationship with work and the reemergence of labor organizing
-Depersonalizing collective problems and no longer blaming ourselves for struggling under oppression
-Why self-improvement is bullshit
And more!
Connect with Lauren:
-Schedule a free call to learn ways Lauren can support you with embodying the community change agent you already are.
-Check out TAKE UP SPACE, an anticapitalist course and community to do the inner, relational, and collective work to impact your community — regardless of your messy family background.
-Sign up for Money Mindset for Anticapitalists (free for TAKE UP SPACE members, sliding scale for the public) happening Sunday, September 4. Recording will be available.
Connect with Tristan:
-Join them for Creating Safer Spaces: Embodying your Commitment to Trans Inclusion, a 6-session series exploring trans 101 concepts and beyond, beginning August 30.
-Register for Living the Practice: Equity in Action, a 6-month training to support space-holders in embodying queer competency and trans inclusion, beginning October 5.
-Reach out to Tristan to learn other ways they can support you as a digital strategist and equity-inclusion facilitator.
Connect with Brooke:
-Join her bonus round of Transcend Your Dichotomy Training Camp to move your business forward in a sustainable way.
-Tune in to Transcend Your Dichotomy Podcast.
-Learn about all the ways you can work with Brooke.
You can support this podcast by joining us on Patreon for as little as $2/month! Your support helps us continue to host impactful conversations, and patrons receive perks such as bonus content, video podcasts, special discounts on workshops, and so much more!
Be sure to subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and leave a 5-star rating and review on Apple.
We’d also love for you to take a screenshot of where the episode resonates with you and tag us in your Instagram stories at @alltfinpodcast, @tristankatzcreative, and @laurenkayroberts.
A transcript of this episode is in the works and will be linked here shortly.
Thanks to Son of Nun and DJ Mentos for the music. You can find their work at sonofnun.bandcamp.com and djmentos.com.
We’re thrilled to share this conversation with Shannon Hoffman (she/her), educator, collaborator, activator, and now a candidate for Denver City Council!
Shannon’s fire for justice and civic engagement inspired her to run after she witnessed how policies directly impact people — for better and worse.
Her campaign's part of a growing grassroots movement shaking up the status quo in a city where many elected officials have avoided accountability to their communities and allowed harmful policies — like the violent displacement of unhoused folks by police — to continue unchecked.
Tune in to hear us talk about...
How communities can leverage their collective power to get shit done and get us all free
Shannon’s experience running for office while working full-time to bring to life affordable housing, a grocery store, and other much-needed community spaces
Moments during her experiences with abolitionist organizing that led her to consider pursuing public office, even though she’d never thought about it before
Ways she's seen harmful policies and white supremacy culture impact her students
Setting boundaries and practicing self-care… even when you’re super busy disrupting the system
Advice for running for office
…and more!
Support Shannon’s campaign:
Donate to the campaign
Follow the campaign on Instagram
Check out Shannon’s campaign website
Resources for running for office:
Talk to Lauren about coaching
Emerge America
LGBTQ Victory Institute
Run for Something
You can support this podcast by joining us on Patreon for as little as $2/month! Your support helps us continue to host impactful conversations, and patrons receive perks such as bonus content, video podcasts, special discounts on workshops, and so much more!
Be sure to subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and leave a 5-star rating and review on Apple.
We’d also love for you to take a screenshot of where the episode resonates with you and tag us in your Instagram stories at @alltfinpodcast, @tristankatzcreative, and @laurenkayroberts.
Here’s where you can view a transcript of this episode of ALL THE F*CK IN.
Thanks to Son of Nun and DJ Mentos for the music. You can find their work at sonofnun.bandcamp.com and djmentos.com.
In this conversation with Melissa Shah (she/her), we discuss Melissa and Tristan’s experience in being featured on the cover of a popular yoga magazine—the complexities, the celebrations, and the challenges, exploring themes of tokenization, performative activism, recognizing harm when it’s happening, uplifting community, and more.
Tune in to hear us talk about...
- Melissa’s work as a yoga therapist and a team member with Reclamation Ventures
- Her experience of being the only South Asian yoga teacher featured on a magazine cover of “game changers in yoga”
- The importance of and need for representation alongside the challenges of tokenization
- What it looks like to give up power or share power with others
- Looking to other teachers, leaders, and models for inspiration and lessons on how to be in meaningful relationship and uplift across lines of identity difference
- Practicing boundaries, self-advocacy, and challenging monolithic narratives of marginalized communities
…and more!
Connect with Melissa:
Melissa’s website
Melissa on Instagram
Reclamation Ventures
You can support this podcast by joining us on Patreon for as little as $2/month! Your support helps us continue to host impactful conversations, and patrons receive perks such as bonus content, video podcasts, special discounts on workshops, and so much more!
Be sure to subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and leave a 5-star rating and review on Apple.
We’d also love for you to take a screenshot of where the episode resonates with you and tag us in your Instagram stories at @alltfinpodcast, @tristankatzcreative, and @laurenkayroberts.
Here’s where you can view a transcript of this episode of ALL THE F*CK IN.
Thanks to Son of Nun and DJ Mentos for the music. You can find their work at sonofnun.bandcamp.com and djmentos.com.
We were so honored to be joined by Susanna Barkataki (she/her) for this beautiful conversation, winding through a variety of topics relating to Susanna’s work, her personal path and practice, and so much more. If you’re in the yoga world in any way, you’re likely already familiar with Susanna and her important role and leadership in the larger community as she seeks to challenge dominant paradigms, uplift South Asian teachers and practitioners, and work across difference to truly embody and model what it means to be a co-conspirator.
Tune in to hear us talk about...
- Susanna’s early learning in the realm of activism and social justice
- Her work in continually reconnecting to her own lineage, a connection that has been deeply impacted by colonialism
- The challenges of being a South Asian yoga teacher in a white-dominated industry
- Uplifting colleagues of different identities and partnering across lines of difference to advocate for the changes our larger yoga community needs
- The choice to self-publish her first book, and what that process was like, along with her decision to move towards a more traditional publishing route for her upcoming second book
- How she navigates social media marketing, posting so much content and still finding balance, boundaries, connection, and meaningful relationships on the digital plane
…and more!
Connect with Susanna:
Get Susanna’s book, Embrace Yoga’s Roots
Ignite Yoga & Wellness Institute
Susanna’s website
Susanna on Instagram
You can support this podcast by joining us on Patreon for as little as $2/month! Your support helps us continue to host impactful conversations, and patrons receive perks such as bonus content, video podcasts, special discounts on workshops, and so much more!
Be sure to subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and leave a 5-star rating and review on Apple.
We’d also love for you to take a screenshot of where the episode resonates with you and tag us in your Instagram stories at @alltfinpodcast, @tristankatzcreative, and @laurenkayroberts.
Here’s where you can view a transcript of this episode of ALL THE F*CK IN.
Thanks to Son of Nun and DJ Mentos for the music. You can find their work at sonofnun.bandcamp.com and djmentos.com.
We LOVED chatting with Trudi Lebron about how to run an antiracist business! Even if you’re not a business owner, there are so many great lessons to take away from this episode for practicing antiracism in your day-to-day life.
Don’t forget…to get your ALL THE F*CK IN sticker, join us on Patreon by June 30, 2022 at the $5 level or above and we’ll pop one in the mail to you!
Tune in to hear us talk about...
Trudi’s approach to supporting folks as an equity-centered coach and consultant
Sneaky ways that white supremacy is still showing up for Tristan and Lauren in their work and collaborations
The journey Trudi went out from becoming a parent at 16 years old to pursuing graduate degrees to writing her book, The Antiracist Business Book
Protective factors that help folks thrive, despite systemic oppression and other trauma
Antiracist leadership as a practice that anyone can embrace
Relating to money and making income with an anti-oppressive approach
The process and experience Trudi had with writing and getting her book published
Trudi’s boundaries, self-care, and community care priorities for both herself and her team
Why Trudi decided to forego “credentialing” her coaching program with the big coaching certification organization
…and more!
Connect with Trudi:
Get The Antiracist Business Book
The Institute for Equity-Centered Coaching
Trudi’s podcast
Trudi’s website
Trudi on Instagram
You can support this podcast by joining us on Patreon. Join by June 30, 2022 at $5 a month or more, and we’ll send you an ALL THE F*CK IN sticker!
Be sure to subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and leave a 5-star rating and review on Apple.
We’d also love for you to take a screenshot of where the episode resonates with you and tag us in your Instagram stories at @alltfinpodcast, @tristankatzcreative, and @laurenkayroberts.
Here’s where you can view a transcript of this episode of ALL THE F*CK IN.
Thanks to Son of Nun and DJ Mentos for the music. You can find their work at sonofnun.bandcamp.com and djmentos.com.
From the publisher's feed
ALL THE F*CK IN was a bold, values-driven podcast collaboration between Lauren Roberts and Tristan Katz, running from 2020 to 2022. Across two seasons and over 40 episodes, we held space for honest, courageous conversations about entrepreneurship, activism, accountability, and what it truly means to align our work with our values.
Together, we explored what it looks like to be all in—in our businesses, our communities, and ourselves. We spoke with educators, movement leaders, creatives, and change-makers across industries—from wellness and mental health to politics, academia, and beyond.
This curated archive features select episodes from the original series, honoring the depth and nuance of our guests' wisdom and the powerful moments of learning, unlearning, and relationship-building we shared. Though the podcast is now retired, the conversations live on as a testament to the beauty of showing up with integrity, vulnerability, and purpose.