If this podcast appears to be out of order, that's because it is! In June we recorded an interview with Ian Massingham, Worldwide Lead, AWS Technical Evangelism at Amazon Web Services. Unfortunately we weren't allowed to publish it without his permission, which we now have!

In this podcast we muse about Reactive. What is it, and what courses should VirtualPairProgrammers do? We talk about Spring's upcoming WebFlux framework. Also news on the recent Docker release, and what's going to be in the new Web Development course.

In this episode Richard and Matt discuss Kotlin and what it can offer to the full stack Java developer. Plus updates on the progress with course development.

Matt and Richard discuss the thrilling subject of "Who Owns Java?". Is it Open Source? And why do Oracle think that Google owes them $8billion.

Also, progress on upcoming courses and some musing about the future direction of VPP's support process.

In this second podcast, Richard and Matt talk about the upcoming JavaEE 8, what it is to be a full stack developer, langauges such as Kotlin and updates on progress with Thymeleaf and Docker courses.

In our first Podcast, we discuss the current state of Java 9, and Jigsaw in particular, plus we touch on thymeleaf, JSF, and there's an update on what we're working on too.