The Ministers of Home Affairs and Police have dismissed allegations of collusion with anti-migrant group Operation Dudula as "reckless and baseless". The ministers are pushing back against interdicts in the Gauteng High Court, sought by Kopanang Africa and other civil society organizations seeking to curb Dudula's alleged mistreatment of foreign nationals. To discuss this further Elvis Presslin spoke to Operation Dudula President, Zandile Dabula