Joe Navarro spent decades catching liars for the FBI, now he reveals the subconscious habits that are sabotaging your success

Joe Navarro is a former FBI agent and internationally recognised expert in the interpretation and application of nonverbal behaviour. He is also the author of over 15 books such as, 'Be Exceptional: Master the Five Traits That Set Extraordinary People Apart'.

In this conversation, Joe and Steven discuss topics such as, the quiet trick that gives you instant control, how to read any room like a book, the negotiation trick the FBI use, and the one gesture that reveals you’re not confidence. 

00:00 Intro

02:25 Who Are You and What Have You Spent Your Life Working On?

04:30 What Is It You're Giving People?

07:16 How Would My Life Change If I Applied Your Knowledge?

11:13 Your Career

12:01 Behavioral Program at the FBI

15:01 Have You Caught Spies?

22:08 Story of Catching a Spy Using Flowers

26:42 How Many People Could Be Spies Walking Among Us?

29:16 Is Body Language Important?

34:43 First Impressions

37:33 How Do We Synchronize With Someone?

44:15 Eyebrow Knitting

46:08 Eyelid Touching

49:45 What Do Our Lips Give Away?

51:14 The Supersternal Notch

55:54 How Do We Negotiate?

1:02:49 Writing Down the Goal of Your Negotiation

1:06:51 Taking Control of a Situation

1:11:07 When Should We Walk Into Rooms?

1:15:09 Why Does Height Matter When Speaking to Someone?

1:20:25 What Clues in Someone’s Posture Should We Look For?

1:26:00 The Importance of Observing

1:27:42 Can You Train Confidence?

1:31:59 Don’t Rise at the End of a Sentence

1:34:20 Speaking in Cadence

1:36:31 Hand Gestures

1:38:12 Eye Contact

1:39:40 What to Do When Greeting People

1:42:59 Should We Be Taking Notes?

1:46:07 Handshakes

1:48:42 Behaviors You Wouldn’t Want From a Leader

1:49:34 Self-Mastery

1:51:52 The Importance of Taking Action

1:53:22 Observation

1:53:42 Psychological Comfort

1:57:59 How to Spot a Narcissist

2:04:07 Narcissism and Self-Belief

2:06:02 How Has Seeing All of This Changed You as a Human?

2:11:22 Is There a Proudest Day in Your Career?

2:13:10 The Importance of Connecting

2:14:53 What Do People Say They Like About You?

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Tried everything to lose weight and nothing’s working? It’s not your fault. According to geneticist Giles Yeo, your body is hardwired to hold onto fat—especially as you age. Yeo breaks down why your metabolism slows, how your genes shape your hunger, and why exercise isn’t the fat-loss fix you think it is. If you’ve been eating better, moving more, and still not seeing results… this is the science-backed reality check you’ve been waiting for.

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What if your anxiety isn’t fear, and your trauma might not be real? Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett reveals how your brain creates emotional illusions.

Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett is a Professor of Psychology and among the top 0.1% of most cited scientists for her revolutionary research in psychology and neuroscience. She is also the author of books such as ‘Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain’.

In this conversation, Dr. Lisa and Steven discuss topics such as, how anxiety is a predictive error in the brain, the shocking truth about childhood trauma, how trauma can be contagious, and why you don’t have any free will. 

00:00 Intro

02:22 Lisa's Mission

04:14 Why Is It Important to Understand How the Brain Works?

10:48 Measuring Emotions

13:55 What Is the Predictive Brain?

16:08 Examples of the Brain Making Predictions

24:13 Is the Predictive Brain at the Root of Trauma?

31:27 Cultural Inheritance, Trauma, Anxiety, and Depression

36:29 How Reframing Past Events Can Change Identity

42:41 Meaning as a Consequence of Action

44:11 How to Overcome Fear by Taking Action

45:43 Prediction Error

47:37 Learning Through Exposure

49:47 Dangers of Social Contagion

54:06 Anxiety in the Context of Social Contagion

58:33 Is Social Media Programming Us to Be Sad?

1:02:08 Ads

1:03:03 First Step to Overcoming Mental Health Issues

1:05:18 Chronic Pain

1:08:23 What Is Depression?

1:09:17 Body Budgeting and Body Bankruptcy

1:12:26 How Stress Contributes to Weight Gain

1:15:00 Depression in Adolescents

1:17:02 Is Depression a Chemical Imbalance?

1:18:30 The Story of Lisa's Daughter

1:21:09 Oral Birth Control as a Risk Factor for Depression

1:24:07 How Lisa Helped Her Daughter Overcome Depression

1:29:11 Social Support

1:35:26 Lisa's Daughter's Recovery from Depression

1:39:12 Does Alcohol Affect the Body Budget and Increase Depression Risk?

1:42:45 Ads

1:44:00 Can People Change Emotions by Smiling?

1:45:49 Lisa's Perspective on ADHD

1:48:01 The Power of Words to Facilitate Emotion

1:52:26 Stress as a Burden to the Metabolic Budget

1:53:27 Lisa's View on God and Religion

1:54:25 What Is the Meaning of Life in Lisa's Opinion?

1:59:32 Question from the Previous Guest

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What if the cure for Alzheimer’s, heart disease, and erectile dysfunction already exists? Dr. Nathan Bryan breaks the silence on the missing molecule that could reverse disease. 

Dr Nathan Bryan is a renowned nitric oxide biochemist, entrepreneur and author, who has researched nitric oxide for the past 18 years and made many seminal discoveries in the field. He is also the author of books such as, ‘The Secret of Nitric Oxide-Bringing The Science To Life’.

In this conversation, Dr Nathan and Steven discuss topics such as, how doctors are trapped in a broken system, the link between oral infection and cancer, why blood pressure medicine doesn’t work, and how nitric oxide can make you 15 years younger. 

00:00 Intro

02:33 Nathan's Mission

04:38 Decline in Nitric Oxide (NO) Production

05:40 Symptoms of Low NO Levels

06:55 Diseases Linked to NO

08:21 What Prompted Nathan's Interest in NO?

10:35 Your Experience With Your Dad Setting You on This Path

12:07 Who Are You & Your Experience

13:14 Nitric Oxide Breakdown

14:24 Is Everything You See Just Aging?

16:07 How to Measure Vascular Age

17:50 Chronic Diseases Associated With NO Deficiency

21:54 The Medical Industry Is Broken

27:40 Doctors Are Trapped in the Broken System

29:18 The Molecule of Longevity

33:00 What Do You Think of Bryan Johnson?

34:38 Can NO Be Overdosed?

36:33 NO’s Role in Increasing Telomere Length

38:33 Relationship Between NO and Oral Microbiome

40:54 Nathan's View on Antibacterial Products

44:04 Negative Impacts of Using Mouthwash

46:08 Oral Microbiome and Blood Pressure Connection

48:25 Link Between Oral Health and Cancer

54:10 Ads

56:19 How to Improve Our Oral Microbiome

58:21 Are Tongue Scrapers Beneficial for Oral Microbiome?

59:26 Relationship Between NO and Hormones

1:00:14 Should We Be Seeing Dental Hygienists?

1:00:45 Mouthwash Eliminates Benefits of Exercise

1:01:05 Foods to Boost Nitric Oxide Production

1:03:54 Wound-Healing Properties of NO

1:05:02 Foods for NO Production

1:05:36 *Beet the Odds*: Why Nathan Wrote a Book About Beetroots

1:09:06 Growth of Interest in Antacid Medication

1:12:22 Link Between NO Levels and Nasal Breathing

1:15:05 Humming Increases NO Levels

1:16:23 Things to Stimulate NO

1:17:45 The Future of Medicine Relies on This

1:20:01 Are You Happily or Unhappily Mated?

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What if the key to investing wasn’t finding the next big thing—but surviving the next unknown?

Bestselling author and savings expert Morgan Housel shares the true story that changed how he sees risk forever—and how it reshaped his philosophy on money, markets, and why most people lose when they try to predict the future.

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Can you make someone like you in seconds? Vanessa Van Edwards returns with the science-backed secrets of dating and likeability - tested in real-life dating scenarios for the very first time. 

Vanessa Van Edwards is the founder of ‘Science of People’, a platform that gives people skills to improve communication and leadership. She is also the bestselling author of ‘Captivate: The Science of Succeeding with People’ and ‘Cues: Master the Secret Language of Charismatic Communication’.

00:00 Intro

03:02 How Important Is It to Master the Skill of Communication?

03:33 Are We Set in Our Ways? Is Charisma Genetic?

04:18 Different Types of Awkwardness in People

04:53 How to Make Friends – The 3 Core Friendship Values

06:37 How Do You Figure Out Your Core Friendship Values?

07:34 How Many People Has Vanessa Taught These Skills? And What Do They Want?

08:18 First Impressions

10:24 Profile Pictures

14:10 Add Cues for a Better First Impression

15:28 How Sunglasses Block Connection

16:21 More Good Cues for First Impressions

16:54 How Do I Make a Really Bad First Impression?

18:30 What We Need to Signal to Express Warmth

21:27 Breaking the Script

23:19 Master Communicators and the "Chemical Cocktail"

28:11 Online First Impressions

29:11 Be the Red Apple

30:17 How to Make an Impression on Zoom

32:08 The Story Toolbox

35:07 How Important Is Background on Zoom?

36:29 Where to Look on Zoom Calls

37:16 Date Experiments

43:09 Drivers and Passengers in Conversation

44:23 Micro Wins

45:05 Body Language That Indicates Attraction

49:35 Why Busyness Is Not a Mark of Success

51:16 The Jam Study – Too Many Choices

52:12 Prioritizing Self-Care Over Connection

53:08 Dating Checklists

54:23 Do We Get More Numb the More We Date?

55:32 Two Challenges If You're in a Funk or Feeling Lonely

58:26 Steve Being a Control Freak

01:00:14 Networking Events

01:00:55 Ads

01:09:20 Using the Word "Because" as a Leader

01:11:01 How Do We Know If Someone Likes Us?

01:14:20 What If You're Not a Funny Person?

01:16:09 Can You Learn to Be Funny?

01:16:57 Touch

01:18:10 Hacks for Being Funny

01:19:36 Channeling Other People

01:20:36 Microexpressions

01:21:37 Reading Fear in People's Faces

01:23:24 Seeing Disgust in People's Faces

01:25:09 How to Tell If Someone Is Angry Without Them Saying It

01:27:05 How to Tell When Someone Is Truly Happy

01:28:49 How to Tell If Someone Is Sad Even If They Don’t Say It

01:31:03 How to Tell If Someone Is Surprised

01:32:33 How to Tell If Someone Has Contempt Toward You

01:35:23 Can and Should We Change Our Personalities?

01:37:20 Steve's Personality Traits

01:38:49 Making Your New Partner Take a Personality Test

01:41:20 Conscientious People

01:57:05 Do Extroverts Have Better Immunity?

01:58:04 Personality Traits of Lifelong Singles

01:59:57 Should We Know Other People's Personality Types When We Meet Them?

02:01:38 Feeling Like the Vibe Is Off

02:03:31 What Are You Doing to Serve Others

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Dr. Peter Attia is a physician, researcher, and best-selling author of Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity. He founded Early Medical, a longevity-focused practice, and co-founded 10 Squared, a hybrid testing lab and training center.

In this episode, Peter and Steven dive into the real science of aging, the #1 predictor of mortality most people ignore, the silent epidemic of male loneliness and addiction, and how to boost testosterone and extend your healthspan naturally.

Chapters:

00:00 Intro

00:02:16 What Is Peter Focused On at the Moment?

00:06:50 What Steven Wants To Be Able To Do in His Last Decade

00:10:20 Ageing Is Inevitable

00:15:15 What Peter Wishes Someone Had Told Him in His 30s

00:17:13 Men's Health

00:17:59 What Is It To Be a Man?

00:18:46 Is Testosterone on the Decline?

00:23:31 Sleep and Bad Choices

00:26:50 What Are the Things Peter Wants To Do in His Marginal Decade?

00:28:48 How To Prepare Now for the Marginal Decade

00:32:11 Peter's Workout Routine

00:35:39 What Causes Injury in the Gym?

00:37:45 Why Is Building Muscle Mass Important?

00:38:27 Training on Fatigue

00:40:43 Grip Strength Test as a Longevity Indicator

00:42:44 Danger of Falling After Age 65

00:45:32 How To Train Power To Prevent Falling in Older Age

00:46:46 Is Training Balance Important?

00:47:46 Peter's Approach to Flexibility Training

00:52:04 Peter's Strength Training Routine

00:53:06 Why Endurance Exercises Are Gaining Popularity

00:53:58 What Is VO2 Max and Why It Matters for Longevity

01:03:59 Jack's VO2 Max Results

01:05:40 Jack's Heart Rate Recovery Results

01:06:31 Jack's Zone 2 Test Results

01:08:34 How Can Jack Improve His Results?

01:09:00 Ads

01:11:18 Jack's Cardio Routine

01:13:21 Measuring Bone Density and Muscle Mass – DEXA Scan

01:19:52 Preventing Bone Density Loss

01:21:32 Nutrition for Bone Density

01:23:44 Building Muscle Mass

01:25:30 Gaining Muscle Mass Through Nutrition

01:27:26 How Different Are Women's Results Generally?

01:28:34 Determining if Subcutaneous Fat Is an Issue

01:29:52 What Causes Visceral Fat?

01:30:59 Intermittent Fasting To Reduce Visceral Fat

01:31:28 Sleep, Stress, and Visceral Fat Connection

01:32:34 Is Alcohol Acceptable from a Health Perspective?

01:36:24 Are People Electrolyte Deficient?

01:37:56 Importance of Nuance in Navigating Information

01:42:21 Peter's Book

01:44:13 Question From the Previous Guest

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“If you want to manipulate people, I’ll teach you how.” 

Former covert CIA officer Andrew Bustamante exposes the real spy tactics used to manipulate, uncover secrets and spot liars.

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He was supposed to fight crime but broke every rule in the book - this is the real story of NYPD’s dirtiest cop, Mike Dowd.

Mike Dowd is a former New York City Police Department (NYPD) officer who became corrupt and worked for the Dominican-American Diaz criminal organisation. He was arrested in 1992 for drug distribution and served 12 years in prison. 

In this conversation, Mike and Steven discuss topics such as, how Mike made $40,000 a day from police corruption, the secrets that NYPD don’t want you to know, how Mike never thought he’d get caught as a cop, and how getting arrested saved Mike’s life. 

00:00 Intro

02:17 NY’s Dirtiest Cop

03:02 How Many Crimes Did Mike Commit?

04:21 Mike Stole Someone’s Porn Collection

08:48 Entering the Police Force

09:07 Did Mike Mean the Oath He Took?

09:41 Integrity Training at the Academy

11:04 We Were Always Told to Cover Our Ass

12:23 The Police Agree They Won't Snitch on Each Other

15:21 Mike Was Told to Stop Arresting People

18:21 Taxing People Instead of Arresting Them

19:52 Were Cops Given Sexual Favours?

20:53 Mike’s Sergeant Encouraging Robbing Money

23:10 Did Seeing Dead Bodies Bother Mike?

27:11 Started Dealing Drugs

29:20 Biggest Heist

30:07 Were Other Cops Involved in Stealing and Dealing?

33:07 Did Mike Ever Think He Was Going to Get Caught?

33:39 Mike’s Personal Life

34:23 Why Didn't You Stop?

34:31 Mike Receiving Death Threats from Another Officer

38:00 Baron Perez, the Brooklyn Middleman

38:21 Meeting La Compañía

39:42 La Compañía Boss Putting a Hit on Him

41:15 Meeting Adam Diaz

43:00 Mike Saving Adam Diaz’s Money

43:44 Franklin and Coke – Local Bandits Who Robbed Dealers

45:11 Ads

46:03 Officer Venable and Feeling Guilt

48:06 How Did Mike’s Guilt Manifest Physically?

50:02 Who Had You Become?

51:37 Coming Home from Rehab

53:20 How Long Were You in Rehab For?

53:51 Why Didn't You Stop If You Knew They Were Onto You?

54:44 The Year You Got Arrested

57:35 How Did It Feel When You Got Arrested?

59:56 Advice About Living an Authentic Life

01:03:21 Getting Released on Bail

01:04:43 Kidnapping Scandal to Pay Family’s Bail

01:06:31 Arrested for the Second Time

01:08:12 The Day You Went to Prison

01:09:53 Ads

01:10:54 What Was Your Family Going Through?

01:12:25 First Time Mike’s Mum Came to See Him in Prison

01:13:18 Mike Getting Emotional in Front of His Mum

01:14:23 Mike’s Mum Tried to Keep Him Straight

01:16:38 Mike’s Mother Not Showing Him Love

01:18:04 Reflections on Parents After Everything

01:20:27 Coming Out of Jail at 44

01:22:02 Being Institutionalised

01:23:12 Life After Jail

01:24:28 What Did Mike Need to Hear at 18?

01:26:57 Does Corruption Still Happen Today?

01:29:42 What Has the Universe Put You Here to Share?

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Are we raising a lost generation of men? Is society failing young boys? In this emergency discussion, Steven sits down with expert guests to explore the recently published ‘Lost Boys Report’.

The Diary Of A CEO’s masculinity discussion is joined by Scott Galloway and Logan Ury. Scott Galloway is a member of the advisory council for the American Institute for Boys and Men and Professor of Marketing at the New York Stern School of Business. Logan Ury is a behavioural scientist turned dating coach and Director of Relationship Science at Hinge. 

In this discussion, Scott, Logan, and Steven discuss topics such as, how toxic masculinity has a grip on young men, whether dating apps are creating a generation of incels, the rising levels of violence among adolescent men, and why young boys are giving up on love and work. 

00:00 Intro

02:13 The Lost Boys Report

03:46 Who Is Logan and What Does She Do?

05:07 Who Is Scott

06:12 How Did This Happen?

10:38 Fatherless Homes

14:40 Are Boys Mentally Weaker?

16:51 Is the Education System the Problem?

22:49 Where Are Male Role Models?

30:08 What the Stats Say About Dating

34:42 Dating Standards

44:23 Do Women Really Want Emotionally Attuned Men?

46:16 If They're Okay, Always Go on a Second Date

48:06 Men's Groups: Should We Have Them and What Are the Benefits?

54:57 Ads

55:50 Steve's Supportive Group of Friends

1:02:42 The Dangers of Porn for Young Boys

1:08:01 How Scott Helps Men With Porn Addiction

1:13:12 Men Approaching Women in a Post-MeToo Era

1:15:27 Teens Don’t Know How to Ask Girls Out in Person

1:25:22 Do Successful Women Struggle to Find a Partner?

1:28:11 Ads

1:29:14 The Rise of Feminism

1:30:54 Money Equals Identity for Men

1:36:09 Does Money Give Self-Worth to Women?

1:38:42 The Human Dating Boot Camp

1:47:33 How Is the Left Going to Get Men Back?

1:52:16 Advice for Parents of Young Boys

1:55:12 What Scott and Steve Had to Unlearn About Being a Man

2:10:02 Closing Message for the Lost Boys

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