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Remember how Phil kept this podcast a secret from his spouse Allison? Heck, he even secretly recorded an episode from a hot closet in his home. Peter works his magic and convinces Allison to join us as the surprise guest, and was it ever a surprise! After the shock wears off, we talk about the multifaceted role Allison has as a professional musician, string players' disdain for brass players in an orchestra, trombones as weapons, the official Allison and Phil love story, toilet paper delivery, hitting curbs, mentors, grit, deep practice, "He's not going anywhere," what makes a good conductor, losing children in the lazy river, inspiring youth, and Phil's health directive. Yup, we cover it all! Enjoy!

Meet Shawn Gudmunsen
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Check out this performance by Allison Ostrander
Learn more about Allison here
Watch Phil at Disney here.
Thank you Gene Pokorny for the "Partita in a minor" from Tuba Tracks 

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