Host Andy Farquharson sits down with Ellen Frank-Miller to discuss transformative business design, particularly focusing on employee ownership as a path towards a more equitable and sustainable economy. This episode explores the key ideas behind donut economics—balancing planetary boundaries with social foundations—and how businesses can adopt responsible ownership and governance models to drive innovation, resilience, and community impact. Ellen shares real-world insights from working with over 900 companies and explains how broadening ownership and engaging employees can unlock both economic and ecological benefits. Discover practical strategies, common challenges, and valuable resources to guide a successful transition to employee ownership while shaping the future of business.