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Eugene and John discuss the final two-part episode of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century season one, in which Buck discovers a strange orb near Vasquez Rocks, the Defense Directorate studies it, and the object leads to a vortex into another universe. The episode introduces Pendar, where Buck and the others are drawn into a conflict they do not want, and are pressured into helping defend a world whose people refuse to kill but still force others to fight for them.
This episode also marks the last appears of the Draconians, Ardala and Kane, and of Drs. Huer and Theopolis, making this the end of an era for Buck Rogers.
Eugene and John also discuss Buck’s wooden goodbye scenes, Wilma and Huer’s character moments, Ardala’s final appearance, and whether the episode gives the season a stronger ending than the series as a whole.
Eugene and Kenneth discuss The Invaders, Season 1, Episode 12, “The Betrayed,” focusing on David Vincent’s long surveillance of an alien hotspot and his effort to document a landing and an invader facility hidden in a railway car, his recovery of an alien data tape, and attempts to get it analyzed
Much of the conversation is devoted to plot holes and the show’s handling of the Invaders, including why they sometimes want Vincent dead, sometimes want to discredit him, and sometimes do not seem to recognize him. Eugene also notes that Vincent is shown as a working architect with an actual investigation plan, which he likes, while questioning the logic of the tape format and the coordinate system.
00:00:34 Opening and episode setup
00:00:43 Vincent’s Alien Breakthrough
00:01:41 Carver Oil Stakes
00:02:37 Taft Decodes the Tape
00:03:17 Susan’s Betrayal
00:04:14 Brother Killed in Ambush
00:04:49 NASA Sets the Trap
00:05:58 Railcar Showdown
00:06:42 Aftermath and Goodbye
00:06:57 Theodore Sturgeon Debate
00:10:13 Plot Holes and Invader Logic
00:16:12 Tape and Camera Problems
00:24:10 Evelyn Bowers Unmasked
00:29:23 Susan’s Death
00:33:43 Alien Mission Aborted
00:36:09 Coordinates and Earth Maps
00:39:33 Title Meaning
00:40:06 Guest Cast and Credits
Eugene and John discuss Buck Rogers season 1, episode 22, “Buck’s Duel to the Death,” after a storm interrupted their first attempt to record. They describe it as a fairly routine episode in which Buck is brought to the planet Katar to serve as a symbol of hope for an oppressed population ruled by Warlord Trebor.
They go over the basic plot: Trebor has ruled for generations, steals women, kills warriors, and is challenged by the legend of the Roshan. Buck is tricked into returning, learns what is happening, and ends up leading an assault on Trebor’s palace, rescuing the captured women, and later confronting Trebor in a fight. They note that Buck’s final “duel” is more of a scuffle than a true showdown.
A major topic is the rescue sequence, especially the “emergency access to the women’s quarters,” which they find odd in both design and placement. They also point out how the scene is staged to emphasize the women coming down a ladder, with the camera lingering on their clothing and legs, and they describe it as especially dated and deliberate.
They also spend time on the episode’s sci-fi logic, especially the claim that electricity has not been used for 400 years. They question how the setting functions without electricity and how Trebor’s electrical powers fit into that world. They also comment on the naming, the archives scene with Dr. Junius and Dr. Albert, and the clear exposition problems in the report Wilma is given.
The discussion returns repeatedly to Trebor’s obvious villainy and the frustrating choice to have characters try to capture him for justice instead of simply shooting him. They also mention a traitor subplot that amounts to little more than one warning call, as well as the episode’s production details, including reused props, unusual guns, and the Kataran capital’s resemblance to an Osaka Expo building.
Kenneth and Eugene discuss if the Invaders know how to fly planes for themselves, what Roy Thinnes and Susan Oliver’s children’s eyes would have looked like, and did hippies want to nuke China in the 1960s.
00:00:35 Invaders Episode Recap
00:02:33 Academy Infiltration
00:04:10 The Police Arrive
00:05:35 Cahill’s Final Choice
00:06:23 Episode Discussion Begins
00:19:12 Alien Logic Problems
00:24:41 License and Identity
00:28:39 Production Trivia
00:32:54 Susan Oliver Spotlight
00:34:32 Next Episode Preview
John and Eugene discuss rock and roll gone horribly wrong, and the surprising way the director for Space Rockers was chosen.
00:00:35 Space Rockers Intro
00:02:46 Concert Chaos Begins
00:04:27 Signal Behind the Music
00:06:54 The Song Repeats
00:10:55 The Kids and the Plot
00:13:55 Casting and Character Oddities
00:19:12 Clues and Coverage Problems
00:22:00 Youth Riots Explained
00:26:24 Tweaky in the Tunnel
00:32:48 Behind the Director Story
00:43:40 Music World Questions
Kenneth and Eugene discuss the arrival of Klaatu, the identity of the so-called “innocent,” the impossibility of getting building permits in California, and bring to light the shocking connection between this episode and the Starlost.
00:00:34 Welcome to Fusion Patrol
00:01:20 Episode Synopsis
00:02:39 Act 2 Overview
00:03:20 Act 3 Developments
00:04:03 Act 4 Tensions Rise
00:04:34 Epilogue Reflections
00:04:53 The Innocent Explained
00:05:28 Writer Insights
00:06:45 Story Complexity
00:07:28 Viewer Engagement
00:10:20 Dabney Coleman Discussion
00:10:46 Norman Klenman Background
00:17:01 Guest Star Highlights
00:20:12 Car Chase Analysis
00:21:29 Driver Education Anecdote
00:25:02 Star Trek Connections
00:27:37 IMDb Ratings Debate
00:30:31 Finger Goof Observation
00:33:10 Leisure World Discussion
00:38:39 Santa Margarita Valley Reveal
00:42:56 Concluding Thoughts
00:46:23 Next Episode Preview
John and Eugene dicsuss the return of sad Buck, the daughter of America’s mom, the ridiculous plot contrivance of this episode, and how the name New New Orleans just trips over the tongue.
Kenneth and Eugene discuss David Vincent’s need to have someone else believe him, the double-bluff of having an obvious main Invader guest star who isn’t, and ask the all-important question: If the cylinder contains the masterplan for invading the Earth, does that mean the Invaders have been working without a plan so far?
John and Eugene look at the 2492 Olympic games on the planet Mykos.
They discuss the in-built advantages/disadvantages of having aliens with different physical capabilities competing against one another, ponder how small of an area you could hold the games in if there were no pesky audiences, ask if the writers were unable to come up with two imaginary drug names, look at the fascinating history of the branding of this episode vis-a-vis the disastrous 1980 Olympics in Moscow, and come up with a new tag line for this podcast: “We’re from the future, and we’ve got some script notes.”
Eugene and Kenneth delve into *The Invaders* Season 1, Episode 8, “Doomsday Minus One,” where Major Graves faces a nuclear test threat while Spence’s paranoia leads to tragic consequences from alien forces. They discuss Vincent’s quest for truth, the episode’s tension, and the moral nuances of its characters, as well as frustrations with its reset button mechanics.
Next Week: Real Humans, Season 2, Episode 5
Next Invaders Episode: Quantity Unknown
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