Life of Pi. Gladiator. Water for Elephants. These are all movies that used big cats or an elephant and they each involved horrible abuse behind the scenes. On episode 21 of Tiger Talk, I talk to Lewis Crary, the Assistant Manager of Animals in Films and Television at PETA. Lewis and I used to work together in the Captive Animal Law Enforcement Department at the PETA Foundation many years ago and we reconnection to have a discussion about how American Humane Association's (AHA) "No Animals Were Harmed" designation is utterly pointless--starting with the shocking reality that the AHA is actually funded by the Screen Actor's Guild. We get into some specific examples of movies you've all heard of and the horrible abuse of big cats, elephants, and great apes used in those movies. We come to the conclusion that there is no humane way to use exotic animals in entertainment and the industry standard going forward needs to be CGI.