On June 24, 2021, Carole and her husband, Howard, and I were in Washington, DC, with award-winning director Michael Webber, Tim Harrison, Keith Gad, Russ Muntz, Jeff Kremer and other professionals who appeared in the award-winning documentary, The Conservation Game. After we returned from a standing-room-only screening for federal legislators, lobbyists, NGOs and other members of the political community in the Capital (as well as a busy day of television interviews -- more so for Carole than for me), Carole and I had a chance to catch up on June 28 to digest the impact that the film has already had despite not being released quite yet, discuss the Big Cat Safety Act (which Carole has championed for more than 20 years), and also dive into her fearless tech-savvy and entrepreneurial spirit which truly sets her apart from most in the animal protection world. While many others continue business as usual, Carole is constantly looking for ways to adapt, evolve, and innovate -- whether it's leveraging emerging technologies like crypto, NFTs, and VR, or fluency in all available social media platforms (from Facebook to TikTok to Clubhouse), I have always admired Carole for bringing her spirit of entrepreneurship to animal advocacy. We also discuss what Carole believes is the most significant change we have seen for big cats since Joe Schriebvogel Maldonado Passage was sentenced to 22 years in prison in January 2020.