Fertility Cafe

An ’80s Sperm Donor. A Fertility Specialist. A Sitting Senator.


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What happens when a sperm donor and his donor-conceived child find each other decades later?

In this episode of Fertility Café, Eloise Drane sits down with reproductive medicine physician Dr. Danny Shapiro and Georgia state legislator Josh McLaurin for a conversation that is equal parts fascinating, deeply personal, and profoundly important for the future of donor conception.

Dr. Shapiro donated sperm as a medical student at Emory in the 1980s, never expecting to one day come face to face with the result. Josh McLaurin didn't find out he was donor-conceived until he was 31 years old, a revelation that sent him on a journey of self-discovery that ultimately led him straight to his biological father's 23andMe profile. The twist? Danny was already Josh's elected state representative.

This conversation goes far beyond one family's story. It unpacks the psychology of disclosure, the case for open donation, the evolving landscape of donor-conceived rights, and what it truly means to find yourself through your DNA.

If you have ever wondered what happens after the match is made...
If you are a donor, a donor-conceived person, or a recipient parent navigating disclosure...
If you believe the fertility industry needs to evolve alongside the families it creates...

This episode is for you.

You'll Learn

  • What it was actually like to donate sperm in the 1980s, before FDA oversight and genetic screening
  • How Josh discovered the truth at 31 and what the emotional journey really looked like
  • Why so many donor-conceived people describe feeling "broken" before they know the truth
  • How a 23andMe profile and a state legislature seat collided in the most unexpected way
  • What changed in Dr. Shapiro's patient consultations after living this experience firsthand
  • Why open donation is better for everyone, and where resistance in the field still exists
  • What the Colorado donor-conceived rights law gets right, and where it may go too far
  • How Josh and Danny navigated building a relationship without pressure or expectation
  • Why DNA is disposition, not destiny, and what that means for self-awareness and grace
  • What donors, donor-conceived people, and recipient parents can take away from this story
  • About Our Guests

    Dr. Danny Shapiro is a reproductive endocrinologist and one of the founders of My Egg Bank, now the largest network of frozen donor egg banks in the United States. He has spent decades helping individuals and couples build families through assisted reproduction, and since connecting with Josh in 2019, has become an advocate for open donation and greater transparency in the fertility field.

    Senator Josh McLaurin was elected to the Georgia State Senate in 2022 and serves Georgia's 14th Senate District, covering portions of north Fulton County including Sandy Springs, Roswell, Johns Creek, Atlanta, and Alpharetta. Previously, he served four years in the Georgia House of Representatives. A Double-Dawg graduate of UGA, he received his law degree from Yale and has built a legal practice focused on business litigation and aviation law. He grew up in Cobb County, discovered he was donor-conceived at age 31, and located Dr. Shapiro through 23andMe, only to realize Danny had been his own elected representative all along. Josh is now an advocate for donor-conceived rights and the policy changes needed to support them.

    Resources & Links

    Dr. Danny Shapiro

    • Reproductive Biology Associates (RBA): rbafertility.com
    • My Egg Bank: myeggbank.com
    • Senator Josh McLaurin

      • Georgia Senate Official Page: senate.ga.gov
      • Campaign Website: joshmclaurin.com
      • Fertility Café

        • Connect with Eloise & Family Inceptions: familyinceptions.com
        • Additional Resources

          • Donor Sibling Registry: donorsiblingregistry.com
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