The CyberWire's UK correspondent Carole Theriault returns to share an interview with Geoff White, reporter from the BBC and co-host of the Lazarus Heist podcast, Joe has some listener follow-up from Mike looking for advice on certifications for getting into cybersecurity, Dave's story is from Brian Krebs about catching an ATM shimmer gang, Joe's got a piece from MalwareBytes Labs about phishing for Bitcoin recovery codes, and our Catch of the Day is from listener Rohit with a pretty genuine-looking snail mail scam.

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