Michael sits down with Anabel and Johnny Drain to explore the unpolished journey behind Good Bacteria — from early breakthroughs to hard lessons learned the long way. Together they unpack the highs and lows of building a brand rooted in biology, belief, and patience, and why nurturing a healthy gut isn’t so different from growing a resilient garden. This episode is a candid conversation about failure, regeneration, and what happens when you commit to growing things the right way, even when it’s messy.