Anatomy of a Leader with Maria Hvorostovsky

Late for pick-up, a Zoom call to juggle, the kids in the room. When Maria asked Cassandra Odqvist Clavien, co-founder of de-liver-ance, which daily habit is really ruining our livers, that was her answer: stress.

Her own voice gave out after years of 8am boardrooms and drinks every night. What she does now costs nothing: diet, sleep and stress first, her phone off on Sundays, and her nervous system looked after like one of her children.

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⏱ TIMESTAMPS

0:00 "You could literally cut a piece of it off"

0:44 Burnout, alcohol and your liver

2:06 Maria: heart surgery and giving up alcohol

8:59 Losing her voice to a sales job

13:07 "I met him before I met him"

26:52 Is detoxing genius or scam?

30:35 The daily habit ruining your liver

34:15 Maria: sleep after heart surgery

44:11 Three free ways to look after your liver

48:00 Phone off on Sundays

55:27 Work with your partner: dream or disaster?

1:06:17 Maria: the big exit myth

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👤 CASSANDRA ODQVIST CLAVIEN

Cassandra Odqvist Clavien is co-founder and brand director of de-liver-ance, a liver-support elixir, and The Liver Clinic, which offers non-invasive liver scans, including at John Bell & Croyden in London.

Before that she spent 10 years in M&A software sales in London. She now splits her time between the UK and Arizona.

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This episode is for general information only. Speak to your GP or a qualified health professional before changing your diet, taking a supplement or changing any medication. Cassandra Odqvist Clavien is co-founder of de-liver-ance and The Liver Clinic, both discussed in this episode. Views are the guest's own.

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"You only have one reputation. And once it's burnt, it's burnt." Grant J Bates sold a £61.3 million house in Holland Park, the highest-value residential sale in the UK that year, and says the corporate estate agency model that trained him is dead.

Five years earlier, when he started filming his listings for Instagram, his friends told him he was a moron and his employer sent him cease-and-desist letters. He kept going, and in 2025 launched his own brokerage.

In this conversation Maria tells him about the estate agent who physically pushed her away from a development she wanted to see when she was buying her first flat, and asks him the question everyone asks her at dinner: should you rent or buy?

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👤 GRANT J BATES

Grant J Bates has worked every level of London property, from lettings in Wembley at 17 to running the private office of a major corporate firm for ultra-high-net-worth clients. He now runs Grant J Bates Property, the independent brokerage he founded in 2025.

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Your manifestation is already working, every second, every day, says hypnotherapist Jim Curtis. The money you have right now, the relationship, the body, the life: all of it is the output of beliefs you don't know you're carrying.

Jim Curtis was eight when his father held peas to his mouth until he couldn't breathe, and taught him that hard work costs you nothing.

A spinal cord diagnosis at 19 taught him the opposite: hard work costs you everything, and the life you're living right now is the output of beliefs you don't even know you're carrying.

In this conversation he shows Maria - live - how to find the belief blocking the money, the relationship, the life you want. It is not what either of them expected.

Jim Curtis is a transformational coach and hypnotherapist, author of "The Book of Possibility", and runs retreats worldwide.

After two decades in health-tech leadership while privately navigating a chronic spinal condition, he rebuilt his life around one idea: the subconscious runs the show, and it can be rewritten.

In this episode: the four-line Ho'oponopono prayer that made Maria cry, the $10 million manifestation protocol run live, the naked mirror exercise, and why what you're not changing, you're choosing.

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Dermatologist Dr Aamna Adel spent 13 years earning her title - then got told off by her hospital bosses for "dancing on TikTok". She ignored everyone, grew to 1.5 million followers, and launched rhute: the scalp-care brand that sold out three times with a 33,000-person waiting list, no investors and no co-founder. And along the way, she dismantles the biggest myth in haircare: air-drying isn't the gentle option - it's feeding the fungus on your scalp.

Dr Adel is a Consultant Dermatologist, content creator, founder of rhute, and a mother - though ask her what she does, and the answer is always "dermatologist first". In this conversation with Maria Hvorostovsky: the medical-school rejection her twin sister didn't get, why hair-loss brands exploit desperate people, what actually works for your scalp (and in what timeframe), and the two-word answer to "how do you do it all?"

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This episode is sponsored by CP+R, Maria’s cardiac rehabilitation provider: https://www.cpandr.co.uk/ 

Heart surgery may repair the heart, but recovery also means rebuilding strength, confidence and trust in your body.

CP+R cardiac nurse Angela Hartley joins Maria Hvorostovsky (one of the patients she supported after mitral valve repair0  to explain when cardiac rehabilitation should begin, how to exercise safely after surgery and why recovery is emotional as well as physical.

They discuss palpitations, breathlessness and women’s heart symptoms; post-surgery fatigue, pain and medication side effects; safe heart-rate zones; bisoprolol; blood pressure; alcohol; and why it can take months to feel physically recovered and even longer to stop thinking about the surgery.

ABOUT ANGELA HARTLEY

Angela Hartley is Head of Nursing at CP+R and an experienced cardiac nurse, cardiac rehabilitation exercise specialist, personal trainer and nutritional therapist.

Having trained in Australia and worked in cardiac nursing at the Royal Brompton Hospital, she now helps people regain fitness, confidence and trust in their bodies following heart attacks, heart surgery and other cardiac diagnoses.

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This podcast is for educational purposes only and does not replace personalised medical advice. 

Speak to your doctor, cardiologist or cardiac rehabilitation team about your own health and recovery.

This episode is personal.

Maria Hvorostovsky sits down with the man who repaired her heart - Mr Toufan Bahrami, one of the world's leading cardiac surgeons and the only surgeon in the UK performing fully endoscopic mitral valve repair. With over 4,000 procedures and multiple world firsts, he is the surgeon other surgeons refer their patients to.

What starts as a conversation about heart surgery becomes a masterclass in elite performance, calm under pressure, and what it truly means to lead in the highest-stakes environment imaginable.

This episode is sponsored by CP+R - London's leading cardiac rehabilitation and performance recovery centre, supporting patients before and after heart surgery https://www.cpandr.co.uk/

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You have 23 seconds before your doctor interrupts you — what do you say?

If you’ve ever felt dismissed, rushed, or unsure how to explain your symptoms, this episode will change the way you speak so you’re actually heard.

In this episode of Anatomy of a Leader, Maria Hvorostovsky sits down with Penny Parkes, author of How to Talk So Your Doctor Will Listen, to explore how patients can communicate clearly, prepare for appointments, describe symptoms, ask better questions, and advocate for themselves in a medical system that often doesn’t listen.

Penny shares what she learned after decades as a patient navigating complex conditions, medical trauma, near-death experiences, and the reality of medical misogyny — offering practical tools for anyone who wants to feel more confident, prepared, and taken seriously by their doctor.

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About Penny Parkes

Penny Parkes is an author, health journalist, and long-term patient living with multiple rare and complex conditions. Her book How to Talk So Your Doctor Will Listen: Helping Your Doctor to Help You shares practical tools to help patients communicate effectively, advocate for themselves, and get better care.

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Two heart surgeons looked at the same heart and gave me opposite advice. One said plan surgery. The other said wait.

At 42, in the best shape of my life, I was diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse with severe regurgitation. And suddenly I had to answer a question I never expected to face:

👉 Do I operate now — or can I safely wait?

This is Part 2 of my heart story.

In this episode, I break down exactly how I chose my heart surgeon in London, what criteria I used, and what I learned navigating the NHS, private healthcare, and multiple surgical opinions.

If you’ve been diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse, mitral regurgitation, or told you “might need surgery,” this episode is for you.

In this episode:

• What severe mitral valve prolapse actually means

• Why two top surgeons gave completely opposite advice

• The difference between repair vs replacement

• Why “minimally invasive” doesn’t always mean what you think

• The exact criteria I used to shortlist surgeons

• How many surgeries is “enough”?

• Why bedside manner mattered less to me than technical mastery

• The red and green flags I noticed

• What finally made my decision clearI’m not a doctor.

This is not medical advice. This is my lived experience navigating high-stakes medical decisions as someone who researches leaders for a living.

I’m a headhunter. I assess excellence for a living. Choosing a heart surgeon felt like the most important search of my life. And what I discovered about expertise, confidence, ego, craft, and decision-making surprised me.

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I never thought heart disease would be part of my story.

At 42, in the best shape of my life, I was diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse and severe regurgitation. What started as a strange episode during a workout turned into months of fear, waiting, uncertainty, and eventually heart surgery.

This is Part 1 of My Heart Story. In this episode of Anatomy of a Leader, I share what it was really like to be diagnosed with a heart condition at 42 — from early symptoms and medical tests to the emotional impact of living with uncertainty while raising young children and running a business.

This is the beginning of a deeper series about fear, vulnerability, healing, and what happens when your body forces you to slow down and listen.

This is not medical advice. This is my real story — shared in the hope that it helps someone feel less alone, recognise symptoms earlier, or feel brave enough to get checked.

In this episode I talk about:

– Mitral valve prolapse diagnosis

– Heart palpitations and symptoms

– ECG and echocardiogram experience

– Waiting for cardiology appointments

– Anxiety and fear after diagnosis

– Exercising with a heart condition

– Women’s heart health being underdiagnosed

– Why “being strong” can make illness lonelier

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What happens when a kid who didn’t speak English and didn’t touch a computer until 15 goes on to lead some of the biggest AI and automation programmes in the world?

Meet Danilo McGarry — a global AI expert, automation pioneer and digital transformation leader who has worked across organisations like Citigroup, UnitedHealth Group, Royal Bank of Canada and Alter Domus, helping companies redesign how work is done using artificial intelligence.

From growing up in Brazil to becoming one of the most recognised voices in AI leadership, Danilo’s story is about resilience, obsession with learning, and refusing to accept how things have always been done. In this conversation, we go far beyond buzzwords.

We talk about how AI is really being used inside companies, why culture matters more than technology, how automation is reshaping jobs and leadership, and what executives must understand if they want to survive the next decade.

We also explore the human side of artificial intelligence — anxiety, burnout, biology, sleep, emotional intelligence, and what it actually means to stay human while machines become more powerful.

This is not a hype conversation. This is about execution, responsibility, leadership under pressure, and building a future where AI amplifies people instead of replacing them.

We Discuss:

– Danilo McGarry on AI & Leadership

– Danilo’s personal story: from Brazil to AI expert

– Using automation to outperform humans in work

– The chaotic banking story & leadership lessons

– Why culture must lead AI adoption

– The 5 pillars of AI transformation

– The biggest myths about AI & singularity

– How to manage anxiety in a rapidly changing world

– The future of jobs, freelancing & gig economy

– The future of hiring: beyond resumes

– Why sleep, biology & humanity matter

– Danilo’s final advice on execution with AI

About Danilo McGarry:

Danilo McGarry is a globally recognised AI expert, automation leader and digital transformation advisor, consistently ranked among the Top 20 Most Influential People in Artificial Intelligence worldwide.

He has led large-scale AI and automation programmes across major organisations including Citigroup (Head of AI & Machine Learning), UnitedHealth Group (enterprise automation leadership), Royal Bank of Canada, JPMorgan, BNP Paribas and Alter Domus, delivering measurable business impact across finance, healthcare and enterprise technology.

Danilo is also a Strategic Adviser on AI to the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development (CIPD) in the UK and a sought-after keynote speaker on AI, leadership, future of work and digital transformation. His work and insights have been featured in publications including WIRED, Financial Times, Bloomberg and Computer Weekly, and he advises governments and global companies on how to adopt AI ethically, practically and at scale.

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