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and THAT’s a MIDNIGHT Convo: an AFTER DARK Series

Something wicked this way comes… and we’re knocking on wood that it’s not us. 🔮

The clock has struck midnight, the candles are lit, and The Group Chat is about to get a little… superstitious.

In the first chapter of our AFTER DARK Series, John and Jed are tempting fate, testing their luck, and asking the age-old question: If you don't believe in superstitions, why the hell are you still afraid to break them?

From black cats and broken mirrors to lucky charms, angel numbers, signs from the universe, and things that go bump in the night, we're digging up the beliefs that have haunted us for generations. Are we manifesting our destinies, or just making shit up as we go? Is it intuition, coincidence, or something a little more sinister?

And just when you think you're safe, we're introducing “and THAT’s a Scary Story” — where an innocent superstition might just become your next nightmare. Because sometimes, the things we refuse to believe in are the very things we refuse to mess with.

So grab your lucky charm, throw some salt over your shoulder, and whatever you do… don't answer the third knock.🚪

After all, we're not saying it's haunted… but we're not saying it isn't.

The Group Chat has officially gone AFTER DARK.

…and THAT’s a pod convo. 🕯️👻

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Is it actually that deep… or did we just turn a minor inconvenience into a full emotional investigation?

This week on and THAT’s a pod convo, we’re diving into relationships, friendships, and the everyday situations that leave us asking: “Is it that deep?” An unanswered text, a canceled plan, a shift in someone’s energy—sometimes it’s nothing, and sometimes “nothing” starts looking a little personal.

Why do some of us find meaning in every little thing while others seemingly couldn’t care less? When are we overthinking, and when is someone brushing off something that actually matters? And who gets to decide whether your feelings are “too much”?

We’re talking expectations, communication, hurt feelings, and the stories we build in our heads before we’ve even asked what happened. Expect honest conversations, questionable takes, and two queer men debating whether to let it go or launch a full investigation.

Group Chat, weigh in: what’s something people say isn’t that deep—but absolutely is to you? And what do people take WAY too seriously?

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You can miss them AND never want them back. You can love your job AND fucking hate going to work. You can be happy for your friend AND jealous as hell. You can understand why someone hurt you AND still not forgive them.

Two things can be true at once—and somehow, that makes everything messier.

This week, John and Jed are getting comfortable in the gray area. We’re talking relationships, friendships, family, work, jealousy, accountability, changing your mind, and all those conflicting feelings we’d rather shove into a neat little box.

Can you love someone and leave them? Can you be a good person and still do shitty things? Can you forgive someone without letting them back into your life? And when does “two things can be true” become an excuse to avoid picking a damn side?

Plus, we’re putting ourselves to the test with scenarios that force us to decide: can BOTH things really be true… or is somebody just full of shit? 👀

Life isn’t black and white. Feelings aren’t either.

Welcome to the gray area.

…and THAT’s a pod convo. 🎙️

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Nobody knows how to love you, expose you, humble you, and piss you the fuck off quite like a sibling.

This week, we’re getting into some sibling shit—the favorite child allegations, childhood grudges that somehow survived into adulthood, birth-order bullshit, sibling rivalry, and the mystery of how two people can grow up in the SAME house and remember completely different childhoods.

But then we grew up…and somehow the drama grew up with us.

Partners enter the family. Money gets weird. Kids change the dynamic. Parents get older. Siblings grow apart. And suddenly the person you used to fight over the remote with is someone you have to navigate an entire adult relationship with.

So we’re asking the questions nobody puts in the family group chat: Would you actually be friends with your sibling if you weren’t related? Can you love your sibling and not like them? Does being family automatically mean someone deserves access to you? And what the hell do we actually owe each other just because we share blood?

Because sibling rules make absolutely no sense.

I can call my sibling an asshole.

You agree with me?

Who the fuck asked you?

From petty fights and complicated family dynamics to realizing your sibling might be one of the only people alive who remembers who you were before you became who you are now…

…and THAT’s some sibling shit.

And Group Chat, now we want YOUR sibling shit. Who’s the favorite? What childhood grudge are you still holding? Are you currently not speaking? Did their partner ruin everything? Do you have a sibling secret you’ve been dying to get off your chest? Send us the story, the drama, or the case you need settled—and if necessary, we’ll take that shit straight to Sibling Court.

Names can be changed. Identities can be protected.

But the sibling tea? We’re gonna need that.

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Class is officially back in session—and unfortunately, we have thoughts.

This week, John Jacob and Jed are going back to school… kind of. We’re talking first-day fits, cafeteria politics, the school lunches that had absolutely no business being that good, the teachers we loved (and the ones we’re apparently STILL holding grudges against), and whether adult us would even survive one full day back in the classroom.

But somewhere between school nostalgia and questionable teenage decisions, we get into the stuff that wasn’t exactly in the curriculum: bullying, fitting in, figuring out who you were, and what it was like navigating school when you weren’t always ready—or able—to be completely yourself.

Would teenage us recognize who we are today? Would we have even been friends back then? And with TikTok, screenshots, location sharing, group chats, and everything being recorded… did we have it easier, or do kids today?

Grab your backpack, find your lunch table, and please don’t ask us to do algebra.

The bell rang. And THAT’s a pod convo. 🎓

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You know the feeling. Everything is going great, the attraction is there, and then they do one tiny thing and suddenly… you can never look at them the same way again.

But what actually IS an ick? And more importantly, when did we start confusing icks with actual red flags?

This week, Jed and John Jacob dive into the wonderfully irrational world of the ick: where they come from, whether they're actually trying to tell us something, and if it's possible to bounce back once you've gotten one. We tackle some of the Group Chat's icks—including, apparently, butt crack—which somehow isn't an ick for Jed. Do with that information what you will.

But somewhere between judging everyone's completely harmless behaviors and questioning our own, we stumble into something deeper: is there a point in a relationship where the things that once gave you the ick become part of intimacy? Is the opposite of the ick actually being comfortable enough to be completely ridiculous around someone?

Ick + intimacy = Icktimacy?

We don't know. We made it up.

But now we have to talk about it.

and THAT’s the Ick. 🤢

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After a 1 week Hiatus I say... 

Hand over your phone.

No, seriously.

Would you let your parents see your For You Page? Your partner? Your best friend? Because this week, we're asking what might be the most terrifying question we've ever asked on this podcast:

What does your algorithm know about you?

We're diving headfirst into our For You Pages—from TikTok and Instagram to Facebook Reels and whatever app has you saying, “Okay, ONE more video.”

But somewhere between the thirst traps, recipes, relationship advice, brain rot and oddly specific rabbit holes, we started wondering: Did we create this algorithm… or did it create us?

Do we shape what we're shown, or does what we're shown eventually shape the way we think, shop, laugh, date and see the world? How quickly can an innocent scroll take you from one harmless video straight down the algorithm-to-cult pipeline? And did our TikTok feeds actually feel different before the government's involvement with the platform versus after?

Plus, what's your app of choice? Are you loyal to TikTok? An Instagram Reels bitch? Somehow living your best life on Facebook Reels? Or have you escaped the algorithm entirely?

Our feeds might be “For You”…

but who exactly is deciding who YOU are?

Grab your phone, check your FYP, and join the Group Chat.

…and THAT's a pod convo.

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Friendship breakups don't always come with slammed doors, dramatic fights, or one person to blame. Sometimes they happen quietly. Life changes, priorities shift, and one day you realize someone you couldn't imagine life without has become a stranger.

This week, we're talking about the friendships that shaped us, the ones that faded, and the ones we still think about from time to time. Can you outgrow someone without either of you being the villain? What does it really take to stay friends forever? And is it ever too late to rekindle a friendship?

Along the way, we share our own stories, tackle listener questions, and leave space for anyone who's ever wondered, "What happened to us?"

Whether you're grieving a friendship, hoping to reconnect, or simply reminiscing about the people who helped make you who you are, this conversation is for you.

Because not every friendship is meant to last forever...

...but every friendship leaves a mark.

And THAT's a pod convo.

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What does allyship look like when the Pride flags come down?

Inspired by a listener question, John Jacob and Jed dive into the uncomfortable gray areas of allyship—especially when family, marriage, loyalty, and silence all collide. Is someone still an ally if they ignore their spouse’s hateful rhetoric? Is “it’s just the internet” ever a valid excuse? And does a harmful post matter less when nobody likes, shares, or interacts with it—or does continuing to post without validation make the intent even clearer?

We unpack what it means to confront the people closest to us, whether family is automatically owed loyalty, and when protecting your peace might mean creating distance—or walking away entirely.

Jed also makes his feelings about Chick-fil-A extremely clear, because apparently no conversation about performative allyship is complete without waffle fries entering the chat.

Pride Month may end. The banners may come down. The corporations may quietly change their logos back. But LGBTQ+ people do not disappear for the other eleven months.

So what happens then?

…and THAT’s a pod convo.

### Frequently Asked Questions
**What should I do if my family member refuses to engage in this conversation?**  
If they refuse to engage, it may be necessary to reassess the relationship and set boundaries to protect your well-being.

**How can I maintain a relationship with a family member who holds opposing views?**  
Focus on finding common ground and mutual respect. Set clear boundaries about what discussions are acceptable and be willing to limit conversations around sensitive topics.

**What resources can I share with family members to help them understand LGBTQ+ issues?**  
Consider sharing articles, books, or documentaries that highlight the experiences and challenges faced by the LGBTQ+ community.

**How can I support myself emotionally during this process?**  
Seek support from friends, LGBTQ+ groups, or counseling services to help process your feelings and experiences.

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🚨 BREAKING NEWS: John Jacob went on a date. 🤯

No, seriously. We were just as shocked as you are.

This week's Fourth of July episode starts with one innocent question: What's more American—a hot dog 🌭or a burger🍔?Before long, we're debating whether a hot dog is even a sandwich, making entirely too many jokes about a meat between two buns, questioning if sparklers ✨are secretly tiny weapons, and asking the question America has been too afraid to answer:

Is the Costco food court a restaurant... and can it actually count as a date?

(According to Jed... absolutely.)

We also unpack John Jacob's unexpected Fourth of July date—despite the running joke that he may, in fact, hate men—build our ultimate summer survival pack, and even take a moment to talk about what we actually mean when we say "American." Because while we're celebrating the 🇺🇸United States this week, North America is a whole continent... which means our neighbors in 🇨🇦Canada and 🇲🇽Mexico are Americans too. Consider this your one educational moment before we immediately return to arguing about hot dogs.

Plus, we debut a brand-new game: and THAT's Red🔴, White⚪️ & WHY? Can we tell the difference between a Florida headline, a fake headline, or something involving fireworks? Honestly... Florida makes this way harder than it should be.

So grab a burger... or a hot dog (we're still arguing), throw on some sunscreen, refill your $1.50 Costco soda🥤, and join us for an episode full of summer chaos, explosive opinions🧨, questionable dating choices, unnecessary debates, and conversations that absolutely should've stayed at the BBQ.🍗

...and THAT's a pod convo.

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