In this episode I chat with two of my best friends, André Revels and Cliff Sellers, who are both professional actors living in NYC.  The plan was to talk about their experiences in the entertainment industry, on cruise ships, national tours, in NYC, etc, however the events of the last few weeks shifted that plan, as Cliff attended the protests in DC and has some stories to tell - not to mention the BLM movement is one that these two live and fight every day. They both have given me perspective and patience as long as I’ve known them, and this conversation is no different.  Enjoy!

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