Hi hi hi, who’s mad as hell and wants to abolish the police? Clare starts the podcast talking about her own attempts at having hard discussions with other white people about the looting and riots going on, and shares some tips from Melanin Base Camp’s writer Danielle Williams about how to be an ally in the outdoors. 

Then, Clare fan girls for 45 minutes over the incredible New Mexico Representative Angelica Rubio. From grassroots organizing in LA to riding her bicycle to Sante Fe in solidarity with rural communities, Angelica is truly who we all aspire to grow up to be. Most exciting, Angelica shares about her work creating the country’s first ever Outdoor Equity Fund to support organizations and groups focused on getting youth of color out in the backcountry. You can apply to have your organization funded here!

Happy listening and learning, bitches! Xoxo

Angelica's IG: @roguerubio
Clare's IG: @miss.clare.in.the.wild
Podcast IG: @backcountrybtchs