Anise Goff (Mark's wife) talks with he and Josh (Mark was super anxious having her on, p.s) about being a Black woman growing up with a mother who had serious mental health challenges and how that impacted her family while she and her sister were taken care of by a "village of women" who came to their aid. Anise shares how she dealt with feeling overwhelmed and guilty about not "being enough," and how a history of tragedy in her parent's background shaped her emotional learning curve. The episode goes deep into her spiritual practice, therapy, overcoming low self-worth and thriving in NYC by surrounding herself with great friends, before moving to L.A. where her life and spiritual practice really took off.

Mentioned:

Debtors Anonymous

Alanon

A.A.

Sprituality

Therapy