James McLeary was part of the original group that brought men's circles to New Folsom Prison after the 1996 riots that led to the formation of Inside Circle. He's been part of the men's work movement for over 25 years and his wisdom shines through this beautiful, rich conversation. James has made incredible contributions to initiation practices and circles over the years - especially for black men and people inside prison, but above all, he's committed to doing his own work.