On this week's episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson is joined by Kim Heller—She is an author, political commentator, and social advocate. Kim shares insights from her writing and work, discussing the legacy of apartheid, the challenges facing the country’s democracy, and her unfiltered take on issues of identity and power. Jesse presses with his signature bold questions, sparking moments of both tension and humor as they explore faith, leadership, and truth in a divided society. It’s a powerful exchange you won’t want to miss, as Kim opens up about her personal journey and convictions. The discussion also sheds light on the broader struggles facing not just South Africa, but the world at large.