This episode is chock full of goodness and light! SooJin and Hannah are joined by Hannah’s 8-and-a-half-year-old son (Anthony) for the first part of the episode. He shares what racism is, what we can do to stop it, and what has been helpful for him so far in learning about racism and antiracism. After saying goodbye to Anthony, SooJin and Hannah reflect on Season 2 and the major transformations that have taken place within themselves and within their lives. It’s clear: both SooJin and Hannah are different people, since they started the Antiracist Parenting Podcast. In addition, the work they’ve put in over the past two years is ushering in all kinds of beautiful possibilities for the future!

Resources:

Heal Your Way Forward by Myisha T. Hill 

Check Your Privilege and The Co-Conspirator’s Lounge

The Angela Day School  

Girl, Woman, Other by Bernardine Evaristo

How We Show Up by Mia Birdsong

As We Have Always Done: Indigenous Freedom through Radical Resistance by Leanne Betasamosake Simpson

How to be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi

Story Tells a Story About Organizing by Renee Boney-Jett

Sulwe by Lupita Nyong’o

Separate is Never Equal by Duncan Tonatiuh

Something Happened in Our Town by Ann Hazzard, Marianne Celano, and Marietta Collins

Chocolate Me! by Taye Diggs

Humphrey book series by Betty G. Birney

SooJin and Hannah round out this 4-part series by talking with Hannah’s cousin, Laura Holsen. Laura reflects on how she used to notice interracial couples and wonder what that experience must be like. Then she fell in love with and married someone from a different racial background! Laura’s relationship with her spouse, Sunny, has greatly shifted her awareness around privilege and motivates her to do more within her spheres of influence. In her role as a clinical neuroscientist at Brigham and Women’s Hospital - Harvard Medical School, Laura is actively learning about and implementing diversity, equity, and inclusion. We discuss how the field of psychiatry has a long way to go to become antiracist. Ultimately, this conversation inspires us to reconnect with our personal histories and respective ancestral healing practices in order to expand the ways in which we remedy illness, address trauma, and repair harm.

Resources:

Visions, Inc

Gather - documentary film on Netflix

This Land is Their Land by David Silverman

Mass General Brigham - United Against Racism 

Dr. Camara Phyllis Jones 

Dr. Tamarra James-Todd 

National Institutes of Health DEI Strategic Plan

SooJin and Hannah sit down with Margaret Gerstle (Hannah’s 63-year-old aunt!) for this brave episode. Margaret shares how her commitment to redistributing wealth has helped her to better understand the true needs of her community, to learn new tools for addressing racism, to expand her network of friends, and to strengthen her overall sense of self-confidence. We love her humility and courage as she pushes herself to gain awareness and leverage her white privilege to help realize an antiracist future.

Resources:

Community Foundation of Louisville

Urban League in Louisville

“Konda Mason: Holding Love Capital Sacred” on Green Dreamer 

“Edgar Villanueva: Money as Sacred Medicine” on Green Dreamer 

The High Cost of Racism webinar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUvPl5j57wk

Winners Take All by Anand Giridharadas

Decolonizing Wealth: Indigenous Wisdom to Heal Divides and Restore Balance by Edgar Villanueva

SooJin and Hannah sit down with Delia McGrath (Hannah’s 83-year-old aunt!) for this sweeping episode. Delia was born in 1939 at the outbreak of World War II. She was raised in a large family of 14 children, attended segregated schools, married a Filipino man, and raised two biracial daughters who now have their own children (Delia’s four beautiful grandchildren). Delia has always known that racism is wrong. However, she hasn’t always had the awareness or skills to effectively leverage her privilege for antiracism. Her story is one of hard work and perseverance. Delia’s tenacity and dedication have brought new levels of consciousness, new tools and techniques, and new perspectives on how she can contribute to a better world for all of us. She is a model - a true gift - for white people doing antiracist work.

Resources:

Code Pink 

Jewish Voice for Peace

Pacifica Peace People

Cognitive Dissonance 

Nice White Ladies by Jessie Daniels

Sweet Taste of Liberty by W. Caleb McDaniel

From Orphan to Adoptee by SooJin Pate

SooJin and Hannah mix it up in this episode - featuring co-host, Hannah Carney - to launch a four-part series on What White People Are Doing. This series is in response to a question posed by previous guest Marjorie Grevious (from Episode 19). Hannah opens the conversation by sharing personal stories, grappling out loud with some of the nuance that she is navigating, and providing a glimpse of what goes on behind the scenes for white people who are committed to antiracism. She shows up honestly with offerings of grace and vulnerability. Her story highlights the healing nature of antiracism and the tremendous benefits of engaging in the more difficult aspects of the work.

Note: Some profanity is sprinkled throughout this episode.

Resources:

Strategic Diversity Initiatives

Allyship Certificate Series

Headspace - meditation app

Lisa Harris & Co - narrative therapy (for people who identify as women)

All About Love by bell hooks

1619 Project by Nikole Hannah-Jones

SooJin and Hannah sit down with prolific author and editor Veronica Chambers of the New York Times to discuss her recent book entitled Call and Response: The Story of Black Lives Matter. This conversation is epic, exploring the history of the BLM movement and how we can all play a part in moving the ball forward a little bit. Veronica poses thoughtful questions and weaves in her own personal experiences as a way to shine light on the complexities and realities that parents of color face - especially Black parents - as they raise their children in a society that was built to exclude them. Her book is both stunning and hopeful, and this episode is dripping with opportunity and intention. Veronica challenges us to choose our verbs wisely because what we do (or don’t do) matters and will have ripple effects into future generations. The power is ours. What verb will we choose today?

Resources:

Call and Response: The Story of Black Lives Matter

Unbought and Unbossed (film about Shirley Chisholm)

When and Where I Enter by Paula Giddings

NY Times Climate Hub Veronica Chambers

NY Times Climate Hub Somini Sengupta

NY Times Baking the World a Better Place

NY Times Suffrage at 100

Shirley Chisholm is a Verb!

In this episode, SooJin and Hannah bring in former guest Kate Towle (Episode 3) and her long-time friend Sharon White to talk about building relationships across difference. We learn how Sharon and Kate were raised by parents who modeled the practice of cultivating interracial friendships, and how that translated into their own lives. As they reflect on their 20-year friendship, Sharon and Kate reveal the risks and rewards associated with going beyond a working relationship and immersing themselves into each other’s families. Two of Sharon’s nieces, Khadijah Segura and Shaylyn White, make guest appearances to share their perspectives - as they represent and usher in future generations. This powerful conversation uncovers how cross-racial friendships help us deepen our understanding of ourselves as well as the world around us.

Resources:

Sweet Burden of Crossing (novel) by Kate Towle

Sweet Potato Comfort Pie

Sweet Potato Comfort Pie: MLK Day of Service Event (Registration page)

‘Mom, Why Don’t You Have Any Black Friends?’Before you talk to your kids about race, answer this question by Michelle Silverthorn

“Cross-Racial Relationships” on Code Switch podcast (Quote by Beverly Daniel Tatum)

White Supremacy Culture and Characteristics by Tema Okun and Friends

All about Love by bell hooks

This episode is sure to lift your spirits! Hannah is back - she and SooJin are enlightened by Miranda (daughter of Emilia Gonzalez Avalos from Episode 4) and Amira (daughter of Laura and Daren Hill from Episode 10). Every word oozes with wisdom and brilliance. With the help of these two girls, we learn how to open our hearts wider, how to be more curious, how to find our people and build community, and how to embody love. If you interact with kids at all, in any capacity - this episode is a MUST LISTEN. Kids want to know the truth, and here’s what can happen when we let go of fear and provide it. As we enter a new year - treat yourself to this huge dose of hope and inspiration!

Resources: Apple Bitez podcast, created and hosted by Amira

In this episode, SooJin brings in spiritual wellness consultant and restorative yoga teacher Marjorie Grevious to share the wisdom and insights she’s garnered from witnessing how toxic masculine definitions of what it means to be a “man” has robbed the men in her life. She discusses not only how men are complicit in toxic masculinity but also women and offers a powerful alternative to toxic masculinity, as she shares the various ways her and her partner worked to preserve the innocence and goodness of her nephew, as they raised him to embody #BlackBoyJoy. She also points out the responsibility that white people need to play in creating an environment where Black boys are safe and protected.

Resources:

Restorative Yoga with Marjorie at Yoga Sanctuary

[email protected] (Marjorie’s Email for Consultation Requests)

Radiant Rest by Tracee Stanley-Newell

Restorative Yoga for Race and Ethnic Stress-Based Trauma by Dr. Gail Parker

“A Humanist View” Speech delivered in 1975 by Toni Morrison at Portland State University

In this episode, SooJin and E.G. talk about the Minnesota artist community, the importance of “being in the tradition” a la Amiri Baraka, and how he and his partner are raising their two Black boys to be sensitive, confident, and creative souls. E.G. spits all kinds of wisdom, as he discusses how the women in his life, along with embracing his own feminine energy, has nurtured a healthy masculinity that he models for his sons, encouraging them to express their full range of emotions. He also discusses the importance and power of creating a mantra, a family creed, to instill in our children the core values you want to teach them. Doing so helps to build in them a strong foundation of pride, confidence, and respect that they can draw on throughout their lives. By the way, there’s an unexpected guest who makes her presence known towards the end of the episode. Her name is Prima :)

Resources:

United Teachers Los Angeles

Godfrey Santos Plata: twitter.com/godfreyplata or instagram.com/godfreyplata 

Tru Ruts (Art organization founded by Sha Cage and E.G. Bailey)

Tish Jones of TruArtSpeaks

E.G. Bailey’s Cineplays

Mamba Mentality: How I Play by Kobe Bryant

Mastery: The Keys to Success and Long-Term Fulfillment by George Leonard

Ultralearning: Master Hard Skills, Outsmart the Competition, and Accelerate Your Career by Scott H. Young