Anything But Typical

By Gary Frey & Ben McDonald

Gary Frey & Ben McDonald host round table conversations discussing entrepreneurship, leadership, and success on your own terms.... more

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June 04, 2025 144: The Accidental Entrepreneur Journey with Austin Palmer
"Vanilla is a great flavor." – Austin Palmer

Austin may have raised some eyebrows as a kid at 31 Flavors, but he’s always known one thing: flashy doesn’t equal better.

So, whether he’s picking ice cream or building financial portfolios, his approach is the same:

Simple. Steady. No sprinkles required.

His path started predictably—son of a CPA, became a CPA, climbed the ladder at Morgan Stanley & Merrill Lynch.

He never chased “fastest-growing advisor” titles. He just kept showing up, doing the right thing, & putting clients first.

Then one day, he walked away from corporate comfort to become a partner at Destination Wealth—and suddenly, vanilla had a twist.

Consistency? That came naturally.

Entrepreneurship? That was rocky road.

If you’ve ever done everything “right” & then found yourself wondering, “What else am I capable of?”—this one’s for you.

It’s a story of rewiring. Of risk. Of letting go of the familiar to build something that’s yours.

Because leadership doesn’t have to be loud.

It just has to be real.

To learn more, find him at destinationwealthadvisors.com, or reach out to him at [email protected]

George Eliot told us, "It’s never too late to be what you might have been."

Austin proves it.
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58min
May 20, 2025 143: Peak Performance Strategies From Professional Sports with Carlos Salum
“I take people as a story… I can see their higher self before they can.” – Carlos Salum

Carlos grew up under Argentina’s military dictatorship—surrounded by uncertainty, but also by entrepreneurs, poets, and principled people who knew how to thrive despite it.

That tension didn’t crush him. It sharpened his vision—so much so that, by adulthood, traditional paths like law & medicine felt like cages, not callings.

So he did what most people won’t: He bet on himself.

On a handshake, he pitched a partnership to the world’s top tennis coach. No credentials. No fancy title. Just conviction.

Then he flew to Germany, crashed on a friend’s couch, & hustled up a seven-city speaking tour with no internet, no safety net, & no backup plan.

Eight months later, the world’s biggest sports agency called him “Houdini” as he coached legends like Agassi, Seles, & Sampras.

But it was never just about tennis. It was always about helping people live with alignment, intention, and impact.

Today, he brings that same fire to business owners.

Ready to align with something deeper?

Find him at SalumInternational.com.

Joseph Campbell said, “The privilege of a lifetime is being who you are.”

Carlos helps people remember that.
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1h 7min
May 07, 2025 142: Building Canada's Largest Snowboarding Brand at 24 with Perry Gladstone
“I want to know what I'm capable of… but I'm not an adrenaline junkie. I just want to know how far I can take it—because I want to know what my greatest potential is.” – Perry Gladstone

At 8, Perry was selling comic books at flea markets. At 15, he opened a skateboard shop that pulled in $100K that summer. By 24, he launched a snowboard company in his kitchen that became Canada’s biggest—& sold it before he turned 30.

But it was never about the money.

For Perry, business has always been about access—to adventure, freedom, & experiences no one else would hand him. If he wanted to do something, he built a way to do it.

That’s how he became a record-setting free diver, a coach to high-powered CEOs, a musician, & a master at intentional reinvention.

The common thread?

Radical self-awareness. He knows exactly what drives him—& he helps others find the emotional through-line that connects everything they’ve ever done.

What Perry builds isn’t just business. It’s identity. It’s legacy.

To learn more, find him at PerryGladstone.com.

Poet Rainer Maria Rilke said, “The only journey is the one within.”

Perry’s been on that journey all along.
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1h 4min
April 23, 2025 141: Retiring at 27 To Pursue Entrepreneurship
"If I can be good about business, & I can do my business well—but then also care about my people & have that noticed in the marketplace—that’s way more important to me." – Greg Lafferty

At 27, Greg seemingly had it all: the pedigree, the projects, the prestige of a big job at NASA.

But what he really wanted was a life of impact. So, he retired (yes, at 27!) from the confines of government & began a decades-long journey of entrepreneurship rooted in faith, grit, & people-first leadership.

Years later, that same spirit would draw Christina Wright to him.

A few referrals & persistent follow-ups later, she landed a meeting with Greg—who was launching a company with no name, no business plan… & no investor relations lead.

She jumped in anyway.

Today, this mission-minded duo is building Branch Wealth Partners—an education-driven real estate firm helping people build real wealth with wisdom, heart, & long-term vision.

They’re not chasing “get rich quick.” They’re building something that lasts.

To learn more, learn more at branchwealthpartners.com.

It’s like Tony Hsieh said: “Chase the vision, not the money. The money will end up following you.”
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1h 4min
April 09, 2025 140: When Kindness Is A Strategy In Business with John Hall
“So, it's not just about your business growth. It's also about … creating value & meaningful relationships.” – John Hall

In third grade, John launched a lunch brokerage business. By college, he was building a student housing empire.

And today?

He’s a keynote speaker, investor, & co-founder of multiple companies — wildly different ventures but all rooted in one thing: adding value to others.

He didn’t start out this way.

Early in his career, he admits he was ego-driven & always worked an angle.

Over time, he learned that the true measure of success isn’t power or profit. It’s the number of lives you elevate along the way.

That belief shows up in everything he does, from how he hires, to who he partners with, to the companies he builds & invests in.

For John, kindness is strategy. Relationships are capital. And success is leaving people better than you find them.

From ego to impact, this story is about building a business that puts people first without sacrificing growth.

To learn more, find him at Relevance.com & ArticleX.com.

John was listening when Zig Ziglar said, “You will get all you want in life if you help enough other people get what they want.”

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1h 3min
March 26, 2025 139: From Soviet Russia to Transforming Lives with Natalia Worthington
“I believe that the more my clients know I care about them, the more I can nudge them toward success.” – Natalia Worthington

Natalia wasn’t supposed to be here—literally.

As her parents rode a bus to make a life-altering decision, her father had a change of heart. That choice sparked a life defined by curiosity, compassion, & quiet rebellion.

Born in Soviet Russia, she came of age in a system that crushed curiosity & rewarded obedience. But at home, things were different. Her father, an English professor, championed critical thinking & lifelong learning—lessons that would one day save her.

Years later, as a young mom in a new country, Natalia battled isolation, depression, & weight gain.

But instead of giving in, she channeled her hunger to learn & took control of her story. She healed—& then made it her mission to help others do the same.

Today, Natalia helps clients thrive in six areas of deep health—from fitness to purpose. Her goal isn’t just a workout. It’s total transformation.

To learn more, find her at customfitcoaching.com.
Arthur Ashe once said, “Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.”

Natalia did just that.
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1h 3min
March 11, 2025 138: Addiction, Feeling Stuck, And Transforming Your Life with Robbie Shaw
“One sip of alcohol literally leads to prison...there’s nothing in between anymore.” – Robbie Shaw
For years, Robbie tried to outmaneuver the consequences of addiction—until the day the truth hit him like a bus. No more negotiating, no more "just one more time." His choices were death, jail, or life.
We’re so grateful he chose life.
That choice set him on an unexpected path. From addiction to recovery coach, mental health advocate, & entrepreneur, he didn’t just rebuild his life—he built a business to help others share their stories.
Now, as the founder of EVRYBDY Studios, he’s proving that the best way to transform pain is to turn it into purpose. Whether it’s podcasting, coaching, or even ice baths in his driveway, Robbie is all in on the power of storytelling, vulnerability, & doing hard things.
If you’ve ever felt stuck in a cycle you couldn’t break or just love stories of redemption, resilience, & redefining success on your own terms: follow him @evrybdystudios & check out his podcast Champagne Problems.
It’s been said that "Your greatest test is your greatest testimony."
We don’t know who said it, but Robbie proves it.
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1h 13min
February 25, 2025 137: Breaking The Scarcity Mindset with Dan Flaherty
“If you’re not uncomfortable, you’re not doing the job correct.” – Dan Flaherty
With a career that has ventured from the disciplined halls of corporate American to unconventional sales & management consulting, Dan’s story comes with a powerful lesson: Growth comes from embracing calculated risk, stepping out of our comfort zones, & learning not to do more but to do it differently.
But it’s not all work & no play. This passionate family man & Hellcat racer understands that success is not just about business milestones. It’s about work-life harmony —enjoying breakfast & dinner with his kids while fueling his passion for race car driving.
In a world where many cling to a scarcity mindset, Dan embraces abundance—championing collaboration, knowledge sharing, & servant leadership. Whether on the racetrack, in the boardroom, or in the living room, Dan welcomes trial & error as part of his journey.
Uncomfortable? Sometimes, but this approach turns every setback into a steppingstone for growth, & that has made all the difference.
Are you ready for the blueprint on building a life that’s balanced, impactful, & rewarding? Connect with him on LinkedIn.
Both Dan and Dolly Parton remind us: “Never get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life."
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1h 8min
February 11, 2025 136: Helping Chick-Fil-A, Lowe's, and More Create Brand and Purpose with Jamey Boiter
“People don’t manage people. People lead people.” – Jamey Boiter

Growing up, Jamey was blessed by a father that didn’t just raise him. He led him. In doing so, he gave Jamey a blueprint for servant leadership that would shape his entire career.

From an early passion for architecture to pivoting into graphic design, Jamey learned that the true essence of creativity isn’t just making things, it’s solving problems. That mindset led him to Bolt Group, where he’s spent decades helping companies like Chick-fil-A, Lowe’s, & IZOD bridge the gap between brand, product, & purpose.

But he’s not just a designer. He’s a builder of businesses, leaders, & legacies. His unique approach integrates brand strategy with product innovation, turning companies into category leaders. Now, he’s doing the same for his own team, ensuring the future of Bolt Group is as bold as its past.

If bold leadership, design thinking, & culture building drive you, find him at Boltgroup.com

Great design isn’t just about aesthetics. It’s about solving problems that matter.

It’s like Steve Jobs said, “Design is not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works."
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1h 5min
January 28, 2025 135: Empowering Employees and ESOPs with Don Baker
"I’m not a greedy guy. I don’t chase money—it follows me." – Donald Baker

What does success look like to the average entrepreneur? For most, it’s all about wealth. For Don, it’s about impact.

From the beginning, he’s sought to empower his employees & do the right thing, no matter the cost. Whether transforming air quality standards in pools to protect swimmers or creating ESOPs to give his employees a financial stake in their futures, Don shows us that perseverance, purpose, & innovation can exist in any business.

Shaped by his father’s lessons, he shares why he believes “most people don’t know what they’re capable of,” and that hands-on, creative leadership leads to breakthroughs that redefine industry.

Don builds pools. More importantly, builds opportunities, legacies, & futures where hard work & innovation are rewarded.

If you’re seeking inspiration & looking to make a difference in your industry, this episode will challenge you to rethink what it means to succeed.

Learn more about his work Paddock Pool Equipment Company, Pure Aqua Products, and Paddock Construction Company.

Ralph Waldo Emerson once said, “You don’t chase success—you create it with the right mindset.”

Don’s a living example.
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1h 6min

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