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Last week, US President Donald Trump signed an executive order freezing US aid to South Africa, saying that their new land ownership law – meant to address the legacy of apartheid – “blatantly discriminates against ethnic minority Afrikaners.” This came just days after Elon Musk railed against the law on Twitter, calling it “openly racist.”

In this interview, South Africa’s Ambassador to the US Ebrahim Rasool sits down with Mehdi to discuss the new law, Trump and Musk’s decision to “interfere” with South Africa’s internal politics, and the country’s ICJ case against Israel, which the Trump administration cited as one of the reasons for freezing aid to South Africa.

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