Apartment 113 Cannabis & Psychedelics Industry Podcast

Episode 251 is the 49th episode of Season 4.

Daniel Cook is the CEO of True Terpenes, a terpene and flavor house that works with vape, pre-roll, beverage and edible brands. He came to cannabis by way of wine in Chile and Argentina and years helping natural food brands grow, and he joined True Terpenes in 2020 just before COVID.

In this one, Daniel walks us through how flavor has changed as more people come to cannabis. Some want strain-driven profiles and others want flavor-forward options like key lime pie or peach rings. He explains why the company brought a board-certified toxicologist onto the team six years ago and how her methodology became part of an ASTM standard for vape. We talk about what the wine aroma wheel could teach cannabis about common language and why THC percentage does not predict what people enjoy. He also tells us how the team immerses itself in a flavor before building it, like eating the same childhood cereal every day for eight weeks to get cereal milk right. We wrap up with the launch of LOUD Flavors and his upcoming time in Europe.

Learn more at trueterpenes.com, follow True Terpenes on Instagram at @trueterpenes.

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Episode 250 is the 48th episode of Season 4.

This is part two of Forbidden Sessions Vol. 2, our free online conference recorded live on October 28 with speakers from across cannabis and psychedelics. George Breiwa is the inventor and founder of DynaVap, which makes thermal extraction devices for dry flower. Sasha Kalcheff-Korn is the executive director of Realm of Caring, a national nonprofit focused on research, education and patient access to cannabinoid-based care. Jacob Tell is the founder of District 216, a psychedelic social club in Santa Barbara. Gary Laderman is a professor of religion at Emory University and the author of Sacred Drugs.

In this one, George explains heating flower instead of burning it and the difference between ritual and habitual consumption. Sasha walks us through how Realm of Caring helps patients speak with their representatives and the research it has collected for more than a decade, including a new survey of first-time cannabis users. Jacob tells us how District 216 grew from community events during the pandemic into a weekly gathering with marquee events of 250 to 300 people, and where the club model goes next. We close with Gary on how drugs and religion overlap, from pharmaceutical ads to the psychedelic boom of the 1950s and where religion goes next.

Learn more at dynavap.com and realmofcaring.org. Find District216 at district216.com and on Instagram at @district216official.

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Episode 249 is the 47th episode of Season 4.

This is part one of Forbidden Sessions Vol. 2, our free online conference recorded live on October 28 with speakers from across cannabis and psychedelics. Stephan Kerby is the co-founder of the Mindscape Psychedelic Institute, which trains psychedelic facilitators and therapists. Christine De La Rosa is the founder of The People's Therapeutics, formerly The People's Ecosystem, and a former cannabis operator who came to this work as a patient, and she now hosts plant medicine journeys in Mexico. Larry Norris is the co-founder and National Director of Decriminalize Nature.

In this one, Kerby explains why the experience is not the transformation and what integration looks like once it shows up in how you live. Christine makes the case for a patient data registry that measures the person and not just the molecule, and she walks us through the health passport she builds with guests before a journey. Larry takes us through how Decriminalize Nature moves policy at the city level, the long history of plant and mushroom prohibition and how decriminalization compares with the Oregon and Colorado models.

Learn more about the Mindscape Psychedelic Institute at mindscapeinstitute.organd on Instagram at @mindscape_institute. Find The People's Therapeutics at thepeoplestherapeutics.com. Learn more about Decriminalize Nature at decriminalizenature.org and follow them on Instagram at @decriminalizenature.

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Episode 248 is the 46th episode of Season 4.

Today we're joined by Shaggy and AK of Death Row Cannabis, Snoop Dogg’s brand launched under Death Row Records. Shaggy is Snoop's longtime sound engineer and handles quality control for the brand, a job he had been doing unofficially in the studio for years before Snoop asked him to make it official. AK runs cultivation. He has been growing for more than twenty years, starting in Seattle, and joined Death Row in late 2022 alongside CEO Tiffany Chin.

In this one, AK tells us about his first grow. He was seventeen, his parents were out of the country for almost three months and he turned their laundry room into a garden with security lights and his mom's garment racks. He got within a few weeks of harvest before they called to say they were coming home early. Shaggy and AK explain why they pick flower on terpenes before THC.

They walk us through how they vet a partner before the Death Row name goes on a bag, which starts with gloves on and a walk down every row of the grow. We wrap up with the Nevada launch and their presence in Las Vegas, and new loyalty app available on iOS and Android.

Follow Death Row Cannabis on Instagram at @deathrowrecords_cannabis, learn more at deathrowrecordscannabis.com and find the Death Row Rewards app at deathrowrewards.com.

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Episode 247 is the 45th episode of Season 4.

Today we're joined by Robb Harmon, founder of Veterans Cannabis Care and president of Marijuana Express M.D., a medical cannabis certification office outside Orlando that has seen about 8,000 patients since 2019. Veterans Cannabis Care covers the doctor visit and the state fees so qualified veterans can get a Florida medical card at no cost. Robb is not a veteran himself, but his father and brother both served and he has been giving back to the community.

In this one, Robb tells us how the free card program came together. He spent about a year hearing veterans in his office say they wanted to try cannabis and could not afford the card. He added a day with the doctor and opened it up for free. The first month, fewer than half of the veterans who signed up showed up. The monthly event is now booked months out.

He walks us through what happens in that room. Each veteran gets about twenty minutes with the doctor and a first lesson in reading a COA, starting with the terpenes instead of the THC number. The room is full of other veterans on purpose. We wrap up with his November 29 event at a VFW in Orlando, where 100 veterans get cards and nothing is for sale.

Connect with Robb on LinkedIn, learn more or sponsor the November 29 event at veteranscannabiscare.org and find the office at marijuanaexpressmd.com.

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Episode 246 is the 44th episode of Season 4.

Today we're joined by Hilary Brown, the Director of Research and Development at SōRSE Technology, which makes water-soluble cannabis emulsions for beverages and edibles. She came up through pastry kitchens and ran her own chocolate company. When Washington legalized, people went looking for chocolatiers, and that is how she ended up in cannabis. She formulated edibles for a Seattle producer, where she helped build the Mr. Moxey's mints line. She joined SōRSE in 2019, where she and her team put the emulsions into finished products and test how they hold up.

In this one, Hilary tells us how chocolate brought her into cannabis. She was doing the chocolates for a restaurant group's pop-up, and a couple of weeks later the chefs showed up at the kitchen with distillate to see what would happen. "Everybody got way too high."

She started her first cannabis job with a $50,000 tempering machine nobody had used yet, and took it apart to find out how much chocolate stayed stuck inside. She walks us through how she builds a product, starting from a flavor she finds interesting and then finding the form that carries it best. She explains why cannabis flavors run a step behind the rest of the food world. She tells us to taste with other people so you end up with the same words for a strawberry. We wrap up with her culinary trick for truly smelling a sample.

Connect with Hilary on LinkedIn and learn more at sorsetech.com.

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Episode 245 is the 43rd episode of Season 4.

Today we're joined by Lance DiMaria, better known as Breeder Piff, the founder of Piff Coast Farms, a New York seed brand built around the East Coast haze lines. He started as a hobby grower on the forums, gave seeds to his friends and went full time in 2020. He says he holds more than 250 mothers and runs his cuts in facilities in New York and New Jersey for the legal market. He also puts on PiffCon, the haze competition and convention he started in New York.

In this one, Piff tells us what haze means in New York. Most of the world knows the terpinolene hazes, and the Piff is a different plant that smells like the incense they light in church. He ordered all the hazes he could find from the seed banks and kept getting terpinolene. He went to the neighborhoods it came from and tracked it back to the growers. A friend gave him his first Cuban Black Haze clone and he built his library from there. He crossed it to Blue Dream to make Harlem Dreams, the plant a lot of his later work runs through. Now he is hunting a Piff that finishes in 55 to 63 days for the commercial market. "It's all about the hunt, man."

He tells us how PiffCon grew from a breeder meetup of about 300 people into a convention that now draws thousands. We wrap up with his low-trellis tips for home growers and where to catch him this fall and at PiffMas in December.

Connect with Breeder Piff on Instagram at @piffcoastfarms and find the seeds at piffcoastfarms.com.

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Episode 244 is the 42nd episode of Season 4.

We're joined on this one by Matt Jerome, from Meristem Cannabis Consulting and Founding Contributor of the Connoisseurship Roadshow, and we're running through September's cannabis and psychedelic headlines.

We start in the Netherlands, where ten cities now have coffeeshops selling only regulated cannabis from licensed growers. Customers say the quality is better, and the growers could not make enough hash. We stay in Europe for Ireland, where the neurologists who prescribe under the medical program say they want to use cannabis in their practice and that the path for patients is still hard to follow.

Missouri held its third microbusiness license lottery this month, and we walk through how the program got here and the new rules that came out of the first two rounds as well as my attempt win each lottery along the way. We get into the $61.5 million award two investors won against Cookies. We talk about the dispute over Sherbinskis and ask whether the person is the brand.

We turn to a museum guide on how the art world decides whether a painting is legitimate and we try its five steps on cannabis flower. We look at an entomology lab's five-year count of the insects living on outdoor cannabis and hemp. We wrap up with a nurse practitioner's guide for parents on what party substances do in the brain and when to call 911.

Connect with Matt Jerome on LinkedIn and learn more at meristemcannabis.com.

Read the party substance saftey guide at npfady.com.

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Episode 243 is the 41st episode of Season 4.

Today we're joined by Victoria Cvitanovic, an attorney and data privacy officer at Rudick Law Group, where she started the firm's psychedelics practice. She practiced law in Louisiana for ten years, most of that time as a prosecutor, before moving into healthcare and tech law. A back injury brought her to psychedelic-assisted therapy, and her first ketamine session left her curious to explore and support the space. She lives in Santa Fe now and represents ketamine clinics, cannabis doctors and psychedelics operators.

In this one, Victoria tells us how she built a psychedelics law practice. She started in the courthouse believing in progressive prosecution and kept seeing people on the docket who she thought should have been patients. She left to learn how money, technology and healthcare work. Then a client called and told her to try psychedelic-assisted therapy, and her priest followed up with the question that changed her mind. “Are psychedelics about connection or escapism?”

She gives us her read on Oregon, Colorado, New Mexico, and we wrap up with a few reading recommendations including translated literature and The Rose of Paracelsus.

Connect with Victoria on LinkedIn, follow her on Instagram at @victoria_verified and learn more at rudicklawgroup.com.

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Episode 242 is the 40th episode of Season 4.

Today we're joined by Zina Brown, the writer and director of The Faerie Rings, a live-action feature film he describes as a fairytale about the war on drugs, somewhere between Alice in Wonderland and 1984. He is a New York director who came up making music videos and moved into short films, including Dreams of the Last Butterflies, which screened at festivals around the world and picked up a run of awards. He has worked with plant medicines for most of his adult life and sees the film as a way of giving back to them. The screenplay has won 17 awards across 55 festivals, including Best Screenplay in Mexico City, Vienna, Kyiv, Amsterdam and San Antonio, and the film recently secured its first investment.

In this one, Zina tells us the story of The Faerie Rings. Simon is a young artist living in a grimmer version of America run by three overlords called the Truthsetters, and the one thing they cannot control is a ring of mushrooms said to grow deep in the forest. He finds the last one, steps inside and meets the cannabis, mushroom and ayahuasca faeries, who Zina is quick to say are not the Disney kind. We talk about how the script grew from a short into a feature and how many of its turns came to him in the middle of a ceremony. He tells us about the Shipibo tradition he sits with and why he thinks a hopeful story about resisting tyranny matters right now. He also gets into the real cannabis faerie costume his partner Madeline Bell made out of silk leaves. We close on where the film stands now that producer Gavin J. Behrman is on board and the first investment is in.

Connect with Zina on Instagram at @zinarcotics and see the concept art at thefaerierings.com.

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