"I was fucking terrified...there just wasn't a sober moment...I feared a sober moment."

We bring you closer to April Hartman, founder of the influential folk punk band Apes Of The State. In this conversation she shares intimate details of her journey through addiction and fear. We discuss the death of her mother, the world of folk punk, loneliness, relationships and at one point April really opens up and gets emotional answering one of Pepe's questions.

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HIGHLIGHTS:

• Pepe tells April about his fear of Apes Of The State
• The shift in April's life that led her to alcohol at age 12
• People wrote to Pepe in prison, telling him about April & her band
• April shares why Pepe "Should & Shouldn't run a label"
• April explains what she calls her "feelings bank"
• The most fearful moment in April's life
• Feeling loneliness in addiction & in prison
• Upcoming projects
• New tack played

Check out Back On The Grind Records the new song April contributed:

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