Still think of AI as just a chatbot? It’s time to reframe that mindset. Logan Kilpatrick of Google DeepMind joins the show to discuss the latest advances with Gemini, including long-context reasoning and native multimodal capabilities—and why UX, not chat, is the real frontier in AI. He shares examples from Khan Academy and others that show how smarter, more human-centered experiences are key to unlocking AI’s full potential. Logan and Mohan Rao also explore why it's such an exciting time to be working in AI, with developers making groundbreaking discoveries daily, and how the next wave of AI in services businesses has so much promise, as we shift from real-time answers to asynchronous, reasoning-driven systems with humans in the loop.

Next, CMO Courtney Baker teams up with CEO David DeWolf and Chief Product and Technology Officer Mohan Rao to look at why, in the AI age, leaders need to think differently about how to deliver value with concepts like learning systems, compounding intelligence, and more.  They also join Logan in challenging the chatbot-centric mental model that many may hold about AI because it has been our introductory experience to the technology. They explore why simply deploying chat interfaces isn't the future—and why UX is key to making AI work for real business outcomes. Plus, Pete Buer breaks down Anthropic’s $61B valuation from their latest funding round and looks at how businesses should evaluate LLMs for fit and function, not just from what they read in the latest headlines.

Ready to stop having long, text-based discussions with a chatbot and start building smarter AI experiences? Us too.  Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/4wHs_V96afE 

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Show Notes: 

• Connect with Logan Kilpatrick on LinkedIn
• Read the LinkedIn post about Mercor that David, Mohan, and Courtney discuss
• Learn more about Google DeepMind
• Learn more about Google AI Studio
• Connect with David DeWolf on LinkedIn
• Connect with Courtney Baker on LinkedIn
• Connect with Mohan Rao on LinkedIn
• Connect with Pete Buer on LinkedIn
• Watch a guided Knownwell demo
• Follow Knownwell on LinkedIn