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Change is inevitable—but agency is not automatic.

In this episode of the Leadership Vision Podcast, Nathan Freeburg is joined by Dr. Linda Schubring and Brian Schubring for a deep, practical conversation on how leaders can apply the principles from their book, Unfolded: Lessons in Transformation from an Origami Crane, when change feels disruptive, unexpected, or out of our control.

Rather than focusing on theory, this conversation explores how transformation actually unfolds in real life—through reflection, lived experience, community, and courage. Brian and Linda invite leaders to examine the people and places that have shaped them, recognize the patterns they carry forward, and rediscover their capacity to adapt, grow, and lead with intention.

If you’re navigating uncertainty, leadership transitions, or personal change, this episode offers clarity, reassurance, and practical next steps.

Key Topics Covered

• Why change often happens to leaders—and how agency still exists
• The power of reflection in understanding how we’ve been shaped
• How people and places influence leadership behavior and identity
• Why lived experience is a leader’s greatest teacher
• The role of community in personal and professional transformation
• Giving yourself permission to try, play, practice, and even fail
• How leaders can support transformation in others—not just themselves
• Choosing to give life rather than drain it through leadership presence

Key Takeaways

• You’ve already changed before—and you can change again
• Agency begins with awareness, not certainty
• Reflection helps leaders understand their strengths, patterns, and limits
• Transformation is sustained through community and shared effort
• Leadership includes becoming a supportive voice in someone else’s story

Practical Reflection Questions for Leaders

Use these prompts personally or with your team:

1. Who are the people who have most shaped how you lead today?
2. What places or environments have influenced your leadership patterns?
3. Who or what is shaping you right now—intentionally or unintentionally?

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#1 in Business & #5 Overall on USA Today
#17 on Publisher’s Weekly Nonfiction
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