Robert Ghost Wolf and Richard C. Hoagland discuss sacred amulets, spiritual protection, and NASA's controversial decision regarding Europa exploration. Ghost Wolf shares insights into ancient spiritual practices and the power of sacred objects for protection and spiritual connection, drawing from Native American wisdom traditions. The conversation takes an unexpected turn when Hoagland reveals NASA's shocking decision to cancel proposed missions to Europa despite having recently celebrated the discovery of its subsurface ocean as potentially harboring life. This decision appears particularly puzzling given Europa's status as the most promising location in our solar system for discovering extraterrestrial life. Hoagland expresses frustration with what he perceives as a pattern of institutional resistance to pursuing the most significant scientific discoveries. The dialogue explores themes of spiritual wisdom versus institutional science, questioning why organizations like NASA seem reluctant to investigate their own most promising findings. Ghost Wolf's perspective on sacred traditions provides a counterpoint to scientific materialism, suggesting alternative ways of understanding reality and protection. The episode examines the intersection of ancient spiritual knowledge and modern scientific discovery, highlighting tensions between established institutions and breakthrough potential.