Art Bell welcomes Tobias McGriff, a historian of the strange and founder of Blue Orb Ghost Tours in Savannah, Georgia, alongside filmmaker James Fox, director of I Know What I Saw. The conversation opens with McGriff recounting how he tracked down Fred Hart, a previously silent eyewitness to President Jimmy Carter's 1969 UFO sighting in Leary, Georgia. Hart reveals for the first time that the luminous, color-changing object appeared in the east, contradicting decades of claims that Carter… Full show notes & guests: https://artbellarchive.org/episode/october-16-2013-ufo-and-paranormal-research-tobias-mcgriff-and-james-fox