In the conversation today we are looking at what Jesus has to say to those "Pharisees and Scribes, the Lawyers" as concerning keeping people from being able to come close to God, or, to be able to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, and this is because they (though extremely religious) are not going to enter in themselves, and you sure can't give anyone anything you don't have to give in the first place. After this we shall receive the warning not to be like those steeped in their hypocricies in the first 3 verses of chapter 12! This and more today with Pastor J!