with Aria Rajasa (@rajasa), CTO and Co-founder of Karyakarsa, a platform to support creators, and CEO and Co-founder of Tees Indonesia, a platform to create your own t-shirt design. He shared about his interest in design since childhood, dreaming of becoming a mangaka, reluctantly taking CS in university, and exploring freelance in web design. Then he shared an interesting story behind the birth of gantibaju.com before building Tees Indonesia. Has always been interested in creator space, he finally got the opportunity by building Karyakarsa with Ario Tamat, who then became the CEO and Co-founder. He shared his insights as experienced CEO and CTO in hiring and culture, how to make a living as a creator, and how to build an audience. Find out more about Karyakarsa at IG: @karyakarsa_id, web: karyakarsa.com