with Richard (@richardfang), CEO and Co-founder of Nice To Meet You Studio, a design as a service company. He shared about how he got interested in design since childhood, joining Thinking Room as the only employee, where he learned about company culture and started a clothing line with fund from Nicko. After freelancing for a while, he joined Tiket for a moment as a Chief Creative Officer before starting his own design agency with Weekend.inc, one of his first of many company. Realizing agency is not easy to scale, he then built Moselo where he aims to empower creative products. Right now he is building Nice To Meet You Studio, a design as a service company, to help companies or individual to access design services without hiring and also to help designers from all over Indonesia to get opportunity. He also shared his insight as serial founders, from speaking with investor, getting product-market-fit, how to be creative, and managing relationship with the co-founders. You can find more info about Weekend at web: weekendinc.com, Moselo at web: moselo.com. Nice To Meet You Studio at web: nicetomeetyou.studio.