with Natali Ardianto (@nataliardianto), Co-founder & CEO of Jovee.id & Lifepack.id, former CTO of Tiket.com. Natali shared how he got interested into technology and programming, receiving projects when in college, and almost dropped out of college. He then share how Tiket.com was born and how he was not afraid to try again after starting two previous companies before. He shared how Tiket was benefitted by an experienced leader who joined as the CEO to lead the young founders and the company. Natali also shared about his management style, his work ethic, and how Tiket got the acquired. His then share why he started Jovee.id and Lifepack.id, both are health-tech startups. Natali talked why he likes to share his insights and thoughts in his Instagram page, podcast, book, and even offered a mentorship to anyone through his website. Find out more about Lifepack and Jovee at: lifepack.id, jovee.id; his personal website at: natali.id