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The spring of 2022 marked the second annual Artemis turkey camp in South Carolina... and in this episode, we GO there! Join us in the field to hear from new hunters and seasoned experts alike as they stalk birds in South Carolina's Piedmont. Plus: female friendship, epic campfire charcuterie, lukewarm coffee, soggy burritos, and other vignettes from turkey camp.

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Angie Scott is a committed bass fisherwoman, and she's a fellow podcaster! "The Woman Angler and Adventurer" shares stories of women in the fishing world. Angie tells us how she got into bass fishing, the excitement of the quarry, and the lifestyle that comes when you're willing to schlep a truck camper and a boat to different lakes and geographies of the Southern U.S. It's a passion and a lifestyle, and we're stoked that Angie shared her story with us.

1:30 Babies on boats

4:00 Angie Scott's podcast, "The Woman Angler and Adventurer". Check out this episode with Marcia and Artemis co-founder Kara Armano

5:00 Moving to Nashville for the music business, getting a foot in the door, and then finding one's way to the fishing world

7:00 Getting hooked on bass; Joining the local Bassmasters club

8:00 Fishing as a team in a bass tournament -- it opens doors to learning from others

8:30 Lady Bass Anglers Association

12:00 School-centric fishing teams

13:00 "I thought... 'Hmm, maybe I could start a podcast about fishing." #podcastgenesisstories

16:00 TheWomanAngler.com - 200+ episodes with the all kinds of women in the fishing industry (pssst... start with the most recent episode with Captain Betty Stahl

20:00 Recreational Boating & Fishing Foundation (RBFF... it's the best acronym ever)

21:00 Live programming (ah!) + a series for complete beginners

23:00 The longer you spend on the water, the better you figure out what works best for you

24:00 Catching a bass on a fly line?! Plus, conventional anglers fishing alongside fly anglers

27:00 Bass fishing with a senko set-up 

31:00 Tips for targeting bass

33:00 Co-angling vs. pro-angling (and the big picture view of bass tournaments)

38:00 Practice fishing for tournaments

40:00 Dynamics of hunting/fishing solo versus going in a group

41:00 Deterring anglers from your elbow space on riverside fishing (will a crying baby help?)

44:00 Nickajack Lake's moment in cultural history 

48:00 A fisherwoman's seasonal life in Florida + peacock bass

55:00 Bass Tactics isn't over yet! The final session is on June 14. Register here! 

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Phoebe Stoner has done advocacy a number of different ways: She's worked at non-profits, embedded in the field, and she's also sometimes separated her conservation-life from her professional life. Advocacy doesn't have to be a full-time job for you to make a difference. Stoner is currently on the board of the Northwest Steelheaders, a panel her board colleagues joke errs on the side of male, pale and stale. So... how do you fix that? 

2:00 Artemis Podcast – April 22,2021: Saying 'Yes' to Serving on a Board with Phoebe Stoner

7:00 From volunteering to advocacy as a professional life, and back to a side hustle again

11:00 Prioritizing your battles: You can't win them all, so choose where to devote your energies wisely

12:00 Sometimes the most invigorating thing for your conservation/advocacy life is to detach it from your career

13:00 "If you can't advocate for yourself, how can you advocate for anyone or anything else?"

15:00 Conservation is not a sprint, and it's important not to take on the burden of success or failure

16:00 Count your small victories and celebrate them

18:00 Keeping your focus on the long game versus existing in reaction mode

20:00 Sometimes imposter thoughts just don't go away

21:00 Storytelling as a communication strategy

23:00 Northwest Steelheaders, NWF affiliate in Oregon 

26:00 Data versus story-driven advocacy; Each has a place

32:00 "The culture in hunting revolves around storytelling... it's the #1 thing people do."

34:00 Storytelling = let's get vulnerable 

37:00 Storytelling School with the Moth: How to tell a good story

43:00 Knowing when your group skews male/pale/stale... how do we get more people involved?

48:00 Recruiting would-be leaders into the pipeline is hard work; It takes foresight and planning to help someone step into a bigger role

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When Pennsylvania game commissioner Kristen Schnepp-Giger is confronted with a decision, she takes stock of her gut feeling and then goes to the other side and lets them try to convince her. It's her way of making sure she's hearing all sides to a particular issue, and what the consequences of her decisions mean to others. In the seventh installment of the Artemis Leadership Series, we talk about having hard discussions, building relationships, keeping your composure, and knowing your own limits. For instance, whenever you tell yourself something like, "I don't have time for that" -- are you really trying to say, "I don't want to do that"?

2:00 Turkey talk - how's your turkey season going? Gobble and cluck with us in the Artemis Facebook group

6:00 A suburban upbringing takes a rural turn with a loving nudge from a high-school biology teacher

10:00 Cold call + "I'm interested in taxidermy"... words that open doors

14:00 Pennsylvania to Yellowstone

16:00 If you're 'meh' on applying to a Fish and Game commission and others are urging you to apply, why not call the existing commissioners to see how they like the job

18:00 "What's the culture of your board like?"

20:00 Life changes = professional changes; Adjusting to a single-parent household makes you see your time differently

23:00 Being strategic with where you devote your time

24:00 Listen to your internal compass: If you keep telling yourself, "I don't have the time," you may actually be feeling: "I don't want to do that"

26:00 Let's not glorify toxic productivity

30:00 "Extreme Ownership: How Navy Seals Lead and Win" by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin

35:00 Detaching emotional response from sound decision-making/problem-solving

40:00 New ideas: See them through a lens of possibility versus negativity

42:00 Bringing up others around you through mentorship

45:00 Learning how to have hard conversations is crucial to effective board leadership

46:00 Keeping your composure is key to building relationships

50:00 We don't have to agree with each other, but we need to listen to each other

55:00 Be open-minded; Let the other side try to convince you

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When Kathy Hadley was living in New York, one of her nephews got unexpectedly sick. Several kids in the neighborhood were experiencing the same thing, and it turned out that the town's school was built on a toxic waste site. Being involved in the Love Canal environmental disaster kickstarted Hadley's career in conservation. When she moved to Montana and noticed that plants wouldn't grow on certain parts along the Clark Fork River (places now called "slickens"), she recognized a similar situation. Hadley has been a long-standing leader and board member for the Montana Wildlife Federation and the National Wildlife Federation. In the sixth installment of the Artemis Women in Conservation Leadership Series, we talk about meaningful service and how you can doggedly pursue change that matters. 

4:00 Growing up on an island in the middle of the Niagara River 

10:00 Changing from an outdoorswoman to a conservationist

12:00 Sharing mom duties with your sister 

13:00 An interest in activism... it started with sick kids at the Love Canal contamination site in New York

16:00 Sick children, homes with no value, and a meeting with President Carter

20:00 Finding another contamination site after a cross-country move to Montana

21:00 "Slickens" on the Clark Fork, spots where nothing grows

22:00 A flood plain catches many contaminants; eventually the Clark Fork River was designated as a Superfund site

23:00 The Clark Fork Coalition

24:00 "Sometimes change takes decades when you're talking about landscapes and bureaucracies."

30:00 Board service and the institutional knowledge in a strong board

35:00 Montana Wildlife Federation - longest standing conservation org in Montana

36:00 In the 80s there was a rise in conservation orgs (especially species-specific ones)

37:00 Did you catch Artemis' episode on RAWA with Sara Parker Pauley?

38:00 Rise in coalition-building between conservation groups

41:00 Has the era of connectivity threatened more meaningful communication with one another?

43:00 On successful teams, everyone contributes -- even if it's making coffee for the group, we all do all the jobs/chores

46:00 Starting meetings with a set of expectations for group conduct

52:00 Small organizational changes, like replacing vice chairs with co-chairs

56:00 So... how about you run for secretary?

58:00 Detaching emotions from work that matters; You don't need to have deep personal relationships with colleagues to do meaningful work with them

1:01 The rise of self-directed learning in sporting pursuits

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We're taking a one-week break from the Artemis Leadership Series to talk with Sara Parker Pauley, the director of Missouri's Department of Conservation. Like many state agency leaders, Sara is gearing up in the hopes that Recovering America’s Wildlife Act (RAWA) is passed into law. RAWA funding is earmarked specifically for species of special concern, aimed at preventing the kind of decline that might land a species on the Endangered Species List. Stay tuned for details on Artemis's "Conservation & Cocktails" event, where you can add your voice to the mix in helping RAWA coming to fruition.

2:00 Artemis Wisconsin IN DA HOUUUUSE! 

4:00 Spring bounty: Turkeys and morels

5:00 Sara is the director of the Missouri Department of Conservation, formerly the director of the Missouri Department of Natural Resources, and past President of the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies

8:00 We all want to work for the kind of leaders who appreciate their teams

10:00 How do agencies draft their wildlife conservation plans/priorities?

12:00 States have identified over 12,000 species in conservation need

13:00 Endangered Species Act, what happens when a species gets "listed"

15:00 The point of the Recovering America's Wildlife Act is to keep species off the Endangered Species List -- to conserve and recover them before they're severely imperiled

17:00 How does revenue from sporting get allocated to conservation?

18:00 Wildlife and Sport Fish Restoration Program 

20:00 In some states, sales taxes can also contribute to conservation funding

21:00 Federal duck stamp program = an example of the power of dedicated habitat funding for waterfowl recovery

28:00 RAWA's model: Federal money with a state match; Projects to focus on habitat preservation/restoration; Cost-share projects on private lands; Expanding recreation opportunities -- any projects that tie back to the state's wildlife action plan and protecting species of concern

34:00 RAWA aims to fully fund state wildlife projects that aim to recover imperiled species

36:00 In a state like Missouri that's more than 90% private, you need more workers reaching out to landowners to execute desired habitat projects

38:00 "Are you RAWA-ready?" vs. "We'll believe it when we see it."

40:00 States that are RAWA-ready stand to use their funds more quickly

44:00 Hunters/anglers have traditionally paid for conservation, but more resources are needed

49:00 Leadership tactics when you're at the top

52:00 Don't miss our episode with Dr. Wini Kessler, the first woman to receive professional membership with the Boone and Crockett Club

54:00 "Antifragile: Things that gain from disorder" by Nassim Taleb

57:00 Take Action on RAWA

58:00 Forthcoming: "Artemis' Conservation & Cocktails" events to write/rally to support RAWA as it nears fruition. Or email us at [email protected] for more.

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In the fifth installment of the Artemis Women in Conservation Leadership series, we're joined by Flora Csontos, who used to work for the governor's office in Wisconsin. Her job was to recommend people to serve on the state's boards and commissions. She tells us about what that process is like, and how you can put your name into the proverbial slush pile for leadership roles in public service. Plus: Ego-driven ambition versus the desire to do good in the world; turkey hunting; and being a leadership enabler.

3:00 Cunning California turkeys

5:00 Embarking on a Turkey Grand Slam(!)

10:00 Wisconsin has phenomenal programming for adult-onset hunters 

11:00 How often do you have reason to sit under a tree and do nothing? #reasonstohunt

14:00 In any given state there are dozens (if not hundreds) of boards/commissions a governor's office can appoint to

17:00 Commission, council, working group, task force = these are bodies of citizens lending their expertise on a particular issue

19:00 Try attending a meeting: Most commission meetings are open to the public, or they're available streaming. Start by showing up.

24:00 Artemis: Game Commissions 101 with Michelle Zimmerman

27:00 Marcia's experience as a governor-appointee on a board

30:00 Getting "the call" (almost like a surprise birthday party)

32:00 Getting into the governor's slush pile of board candidates (a pool that may be drained whenever a new governor is elected)

36:00 Armchair Expert with Adam Grant - imposter syndrome vs. imposter thoughts

40:00 Ego-driven ambition vs. the desire to do good in the world

46:00 "If you have good things to give, you should just show up."

49:00 Enabling leadership for those around you 

52:00 These service opportunities are HARD... but it's the good, growth kind of hard (versus the toxic hard)

59:00 Progress, not perfection

1:01 Artemis' 2022 ambassadors have been chosen - we have 36 women from 28 states; with our 2021 ambassadors, that's 70+ women out there expanding access for women in sporting/conservation. Stay tuned. We can’t wait to introduce them to you!

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When Dr. Winifred Kessler started her career in wildlife biology, field positions weren't open to women. That changed when she was doing her PhD, and she went on to have a career that straddled academic and agency life. Wini was often "the first woman" on many different kinds of jobs. She talks about what that was like, and also shares stories of the women who came before us. There was Sheila Minor Huff, who was labeled "not identified" in a photo of other scientists taken during a whale conference. Wini also tells us about Annie Montague Alexander, a sugar heiress, explorer and naturalist whose collected specimens founded the University of California Museum of Paleontology and the Museum of Vertebrate Zoology.

5:00 An era of wildlife biology when field jobs weren't open to women

9:00 The gender spread is far more equitable now, and that's (gradually) being reflected in the ranks of leadership

11:00 Serving as president of The Wildlife Society

13:00 "That's the best possible thing that I can hear, you know -- that it's made a difference."

16:00 Wini's article on Sheila Minor Huff: The Hidden Heroes in North American Conservation

18:00 When you set out to research/document the rise of women in conservation... where do you even start? Many exceptional women we omitted from early records of conservation/naturalism

20:00 Flashback: There was a time when studying the classics was in vogue, and science was the “lighter material”; Men studied classics and women (with their smaller brains, you know) were OK'd to study naturalism

21:00 Women often didn't get credit for the work they did

25:00 Speaking of exceptional women in conservation history: Annie Alexander was an intrepid explorer. The sugar heiress walked 700-some miles across modern-day Kenya collecting specimens and bringing meat to her entire party most days

28:00 Female friendship makes the world go ‘round, even in Victorian times

32:00 "Let's get the stories out there."

33:00 On being the first woman in a particular role

35:00 Women often play a role in changing the culture of teams within organizations; Different styles of leadership/engagement with colleagues

39:00 "Imposter syndrome is a real thing" - women are some of the best front-line soldiers when it comes to confronting imposter syndrome in other women

42:00 If you've done good work, moved the proverbial needle, and feel good with yourself -- the satisfaction is there. What's the value of being recognized for your work? 

47:00 How we present ourselves to others

49:00 "Your knowledge takes you the farthest when you can back up your ideas."

54:00 The genesis story of the Women of Wildlife group - anyone is welcome if they're willing to advance women in the profession

1:00 Volunteer leadership in conservation... "I find it very hard to say no."

1:02 Volunteer work often informs what you know for broader, professional work opportunities

1:04 With any potential volunteer opportunity, ask yourself, "Is this going to help me grow?"

1:07 What do we work on next?

1:12 "Women in Wildlife Science" anthology edited by Carol Chambers and Kerry Nicholson – Coming Fall 2022  - Pre-Order your copy here!

1:12 "Women in the Field: America's Pioneering Women Naturalists" by Marcia Bonta

1:13 Speaking of books... don't miss the Artemis book club, everyone! Currently reading: "Hunting and Fishing in the New South" by Scott Giltner. Register here!

1:15 Bass Tactics! Registration is open.

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Dr. Jennifer James did her dissertation research on women in the conservation field. This episode, we talk about some of the barriers to upward mobility in conservation leadership roles -- things like subtle gender bias or imposter syndrome. At the same time, Jennifer also saw positive influences that were elevating women in their field -- chiefly mentorship and collaborative relationships. Artemis is embarking on a series about women in conservation leadership. We hope you'll join us! 

1:30 Alex Stokman has been with us before to talk about reactivation

4:30 Wildflower hunting

5:30 Sautéed morels, morel sauce, morel poppers, etc

6:00 Tony Chachere's creole seasoning

8:00 Personality tests and workplace culture

10:00 Mentorship of women in conservation

13:00 But first... finding women in conservation to speak with

18:00 Gender bias; imposter syndrome

21:00 Women empowering other women through mentorship

24:00 Lack of recognition is a barrier for women on an upward mobility track

27:00 Mentorship/professional development opportunities in cultivating independent leadership

30:00 What "leadership" looks like is evolving; The most powerful person within an organization may not be the one at the top

33:00 Combatting gender bias - continual training/workshops help

38:00 Ageism... AND, does the bias ever just age out? Do the promising leaders age up?

43:00 "Mentorship of Conservation Leadership in Women: A Phenomenological Study" by Dr. Jennifer James. Read it here!

45:00 Diversity of one isn't enough to reap the benefits of a diverse workplace

46:00 Venery workshop on e-scouting and registration vs. participation

50:00 Artemis and Venery are co-hosting a turkey tactics workshop... check it out! Register Here!

52:00 Bear barbacoa

56:00 Artemis's Bass Tactics course is open! Find registration here

56:30 The Artemis book club is currently reading "Hunting and Fishing in the New South: Black Labor and White Leisure After Civil War" by Scott E. Giltner. Register here!

57:20 Want to know more about the Artemis Leadership Program? Send a note to [email protected] to be in the loop

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Inclusive conservation leadership is vital to the future of our hunting and fishing heritage. In February, Artemis hosted a leadership training series aimed at furnishing more women with the skills needed to step into leadership roles. You (yes, you!) have what it takes to play a meaningful part in conservation, and we hope you'll consider stepping up to the plate.

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