Returning guests, Dr. Lindsey Pointer and Deron Bell, two inspiring voices at the intersection of education, creativity, and healing, are featured presenters for the upcoming 2025 IIRP World Conference in Chattanooga, Tennessee—Artful Integration: Exploring the Art and Science of Restorative Practices. Lindsey, Assistant Professor at Vermont Law and Graduate School and Principal Investigator at the National Center on Restorative Justice, brings deep insight into how storytelling, literature, and visual arts expand public understanding of restorative justice. She discusses her passion for introducing restorative concepts through fiction—especially children's books—and the critical role of emotion and imagination in transformative learning. Deron, a restorative practitioner and visionary behind the MyMusicEd app, dives into his hands-on work integrating arts and circle practices across K–12 and higher education. From kindergarten-to-college mentorship pipelines to healing circles on campus, Deron shares powerful stories and data-driven results from schools and communities embracing relationally derived arts. His work is deeply rooted in equity, cultural connection, and consistent implementation. Together Lindsey and Deron explore how art—whether visual, literary, or musical—activates restorative practices in classrooms, counseling centers, and community spaces. They emphasize the importance of inclusivity, different learning styles, and the role of affective experiences in building empathy and understanding. This episode offers a sneak peek at the 2025 IIRP World Conference themes: social systems, relationships, and personal well-being. Whether you're an educator, practitioner, or advocate, you’ll leave this conversation with fresh ideas and practical tools for integrating art and evidence into your restorative work. Tune in to get inspired to reimagine how creativity can transform justice, relationships, and community healing.