AS TEMPERATURES RISE

Dialoguing with Janice Stieber Rous on the importance of the body in how we know what we know.

Janice has been dancing since she was five and attended the Martha Graham School until the age of 21. She graduated from the American Center of the Alexander Technique in 1981 and has been teaching classes in Stough Breathing Coordination, Yoga and the Alexander Technique in New York City, Orlando, Florida, Ireland and Israel ever since.

Janice created Body Dialogue because she was in search of a practice to integrate all of her different studies, thereby effectively combining Alexander Technique, breathing and yoga. She also annually hosts a women’s retreat based in the practice of Body Soul Rhythms Leadership Program, a program with Marion Woodman that Janice graduated from in 2003.

https://bodydialogues.com/

This episode is with Saleem Berryman. Saleem is a spiritual teacher and guide in Conscious Awakening and full spectrum forgiveness!

Learn more about Saleem and his teachings: https://www.saleemberryman.com/

About the podcast: https://www.astemperaturesrise.com/

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This episode is sponsored by Earth Altars: http://www.earthaltars.com/

Music is “Pole Stars ” by Aaron Ximm https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/

This episode is with Arthur Brock and Fernandana Ibarra of Holochain and the Commons Engine. Ferananda and Arthur have been working for over a decade as visionary social innovators in the space of currency design and decentralized technologies that are fit for ushering in the emerging post-industrial economy.

Currently they are launching Holochain, a paradigm-busting sustainable alternative to blockchain. Holochain, based on principles of nature and living systems, is growing an ecosystem of truly P2P distributed applications. We discuss why this is so important in light the pernicious issues of surveillance capitalism that the film the Social Dilemma brought to awareness yet how the film came up short in its proposed solutions.

In this episode we explore the intersection of technology and consciousness and their möbius strip relationship in our cultural evolution. We talk about how centralized technologies inherently concentrate power but that we can choose new means of human coordination and signaling that are more life-affirming and that can enable a flourishing of human creativity.

This episode is sponsored by Earth Altars: http://www.earthaltars.com/

Music is “No, really. Everything is fine. ” by Aaron Ximm https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/

Links of mentions and rabbit holes to jump into:

Video about Holo and Holochain: https://bit.ly/3h6B2MJ

Holo: https://holo.host/

Holochain: https://holochain.org/ and how does Holochain work? https://bit.ly/2KM2Gm4

Commons Engine: https://commonsengine.org/

Currency Masterclass: https://commonsengine.org/packagedmasterclass/

Coventina Foundation (formerly CEPTR): https://ceptr.org/

JustOne Organics: https://justoneorganics.com/

Holochain Ecosystem (Happs — distributed apps being built on Holochain)

Junto (human-centered social media platform): https://junto.foundation/

Hylo (another social media platform for community organization): https://www.hylo.com/

Kizuna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SskgD45STwg

Tons of videos to learn more on the Holochain Youtube channel: https://bit.ly/3axAxtR

This episode is with Tyson Yunkaporta author of the book Sand Talk that has been spreading like wildfire. Tyson is an academic and a researcher who belongs to the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. He carves traditional tools and weapons and also works as a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne.

Sand Talk: https://bit.ly/37OMat6

Music is “Undying ” by Blue Dot Sessions

About the podcast: https://www.astemperaturesrise.com/

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Alnoor Ladha is a political strategist, writer and activist, working at the intersection of political organizing, structural change and narrative work. He was the co-founder and Executive Director of The Rules (TR), a global network of activists, organizers, and others focused on changing the rules that create inequality, poverty and climate change. He is a co-founder of Tierra Valiente, a post-capitalist community in the jungle of northern Costa Rica. He is a board member of Culture Hack Labs and The Emergence Network.

*The Rules: https://therules.org/

*Culture Hack Labs: https://www.culturehack.io/

*See website for detailed show notes: https://www.astemperaturesrise.com/

*Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/m/astemperaturesrise

*Music is “Collapse into Innocence” by Siddhartha https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/

This episode is with my friend and fellow podcaster Vicki Robin. Vicki is a prolific social innovator, writer and speaker, activist and life long learner. She coauthored the international best-seller "Your Money or Your Life." I decided to reach out to her to compare notes and ask her about insights she has gained from her 9 months of asking the question “What Could Possibly Go Right?” the name of her podcast.

Music is “Gambrel” by Blue Dot Sessions https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/

Learn more about Vicki's work: https://vickirobin.com/

What Could Possibly Go Right Podcast: https://www.postcarbon.org/what-could-possibly-go-right-series/

About the podcast: https://www.astemperaturesrise.com/

Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/m/astemperaturesrise

Show notes:

Vicki's main insights:

1. History Matters — tracking the patterns of the rise and fall of civilizations over time; how the events of 2020 are changing her life recognizing privilege; the Victor Frankl choice; there is a humility that comes when we realize history matters

2. Stories or explanatory frameworks matter — especially the indigenous stories of how to live well on the planet; how to take only what we need and leave the rest; indigenous stories are about their screw ups, they got wise by learning from their mistakes; e.g. maturation or developmental frameworks; Peter Buffet uses the birth canal; the AA framework for people who have been addicted to oil and money

3. Solidarity matters — the justice movement and the climate movement MUST come together; one of the benefits of Covid is that put vulnerability to external forces to those who thought they were protected (ie white people)

4. Systems matter — we need to get out of our habit of linearity when existing within complexity; everything is connected to everything else

5. Ethics matter — original instructions and first principles; society is constructed in ways that force people to violate their moral codes in service to surviving; redemption is possible and we are on a redemption path — we need a truth and reconciliation

6. Empathy matters — if we can’t feel the consequences of our actions we cannot get to the truth; public execution of George Floyd was a collective feeling

7. Power matters — the embodiment of our power when it’s in service to something that we love that is greater than ourselves; power is the ability to move things; power wed to empathy and part of what makes a cultural scout, they care about something enough to wield power

* Framework that Vicki like is the formation of a cell and the movement from the me to we; so much resolves itself in the realization that I- am you and you are me; we can’t survive without acting from this knowing/reality; it’s like an autoimmune disease that we recognize less and less of ourself as we go deeper into mistrust and polarization

* The pressure of modernity is a forge pushing us through this birth canal

* Social movements are the green new shoots of what’s happening and what’s going right now — I see us all claiming our power that may have not been possible without 2020; these movements have taught us to be strategic; we can’t just be nice people

* Vicki’s list of scouting skills:

* ambiguity

* humility

* inquiry

* engagement

* urgency within patience

Mentions:

* Money & Life documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3szcNsbeSc&t=2s

* Vicki’s book Your Money or Your Life: https://yourmoneyoryourlife.com/

* Covida Conversations: https://vickirobin.com/podcasts/covida-conversations/

* Post Carbon Institute: https://www.postcarbon.org/

* Transition US: https://www.transitionus.org/

* Financial Independence, Retire Early (FIRE): https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financial-independence-retire-early-fire.asp

* Victor Frankl: https://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/history-of-happiness/viktor-frankl/

Ken Cloke is a world-recognized mediator, dialogue facilitator, conflict resolution systems designer, peace activist, teacher, public speaker, and the author of many books including "Mediating Dangerously" and "Politics, Dialogue and the Evolution of Democracy." He has been a pioneer and leader in the field of mediation and conflict resolution for the last 40 years.

"Men often hate each other because they fear each other; they fear each other because they don't know each other; they don't know each other because they can not communicate; they can not communicate because they are separated." — Martin Luther King, Jr.

Learn more about Ken's’s work: https://www.kencloke.com/

Music is "Pole Stars” by Aaron Ximm https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/

About the podcast: https://www.astemperaturesrise.com/

Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/m/astemperaturesrise

Show notes:

* Einstein after the bombing of Hiroshima “Everything has changed except the way we think."

* Today’s political situation is illuminating what we already know: that it’s not working

* The fundamental human project requires 1) recognition of the inevitably of diversity and 2) the overwhelming need for commonality/unity and this is what has made the species successful on a planetary scale

* individuation and integration

* crisis of power and crisis of rights

* we need to get together and find ways to turn our diversity into a foundation for unity

* one of the things that prompts our learning is contradiction, things that don’t match

* The Buddhist middle way is a higher middle ground that is the basis of emergence

* Isiah Berlin — politics is inherently unscientific, unphilosophical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaiah_Berlin

* power-based vs. rights-based vs. interest-based approaches to problem solving and conflict resolution

* power-based is inherently win-lose; domination and subordinate

* rights-based is voting; adversarial; still win-lose and power trumps rights

* interest-based is not what you want but WHY you want it and nobody has to lose

* these map onto forms of democracy

* interest-based democracy requires dialogue and is non-adversarial

* this will require us to develop the skills for such social problem solving without domination and subordination

* the job is to come up with consensus and agreement

* the problems facing the planet require this higher order skill

* neurophysiology of conflict, generally speaking there are two responses:

* neurotransmitter for fight or flight is adrenalin

* neurotransmitter for tend and befriend is oxytocin

* globally we are feeling the pressures of change that scares people and we don’t have the skills yet to solve these bigger problems

* we are hitting the wall of functional rights-based democracy and we don’t yet have the skills for an interest-based democracy and that’s why we’re stuck

* need to ask this third category of interest-based questions

* mediation butterfly effect

Vanessa Andreotti is an Educational studies Professor and researcher on Race, Inequalities and Global Change at the University of British Columbia. Her work focuses on the limits of the modern story of development and human evolution and the adjacent possibilities of setting our horizons beyond what we can imagine within modern institutions and ways of knowing and being.

Music is “Nature Shuffle" by Ketsa

Learn more about Vanessa’s work: https://decolonialfutures.net/

About the podcast: https://www.astemperaturesrise.com/

Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/m/astemperaturesrise

Show notes:

* Vanessa’s mixed race background of white German and Indigenous Brazilian = born from a paradox

* the Gesturing Towards Decolonial Futures collective: https://decolonialfutures.net/

* working at the crossroads of historical and ongoing violence and questions of unsustainability

* communities around unsustainability and communities around violence generally do not intersect or connect because many of the solutions proposed become contradictory

* in order for us to deal with what’s to come we must hold space for what’s difficult, what’s painful, what’s complex, what’s paradoxical without being immobilized or wanting to be rescued

* biointelligence

* remove the neurobiological barriers that make us feel separate

* social cartography of "the house that modernity built” https://youtu.be/nAke2iQ53jc

* the house is getting bigger than what the planet can support, based on separability

* metabolism to talk about the dynamic nature of things, to focus on the movement of things in this entanglement

* fear of scarcity becomes a pattern of accumulation

* need evacuation from the house

* indigenous proverb that it’s only when the water hits our hip that we start to swim

* the indigenous don’t have the answers either but they can remind us that our bodies know how to swim

* need to activate our exiled capacities

* maybe the house was built to protect us from death, pain, scarcity, and a fundamental sense of worthlessness

* unless we can live and die well we will try to protect the entitlements that the house of modernity has promised

* Sharon Todd, we need to face humanity and all the human wrongs and process the shit otherwise it saturates in the bodies and can become epigenetic

* we romanticize the work and only want to connect with the rainbows and unicorns and not the shit

* thus indigenous often have practices such as entheogens or sensory deprivation or long term dancing to interrupt the normal way of being and seeing

* we need to develop culturally appropriate practices that also will help bring forward such maturity and sobriety and trust

* recalibrating our compass

* like composting we have to find the right amount of humor, movement, intellect, affect etc...

* affective forecasts that keep us from doing the work

* the metabolism is sick and the young people are feeling it

* individual hearts cannot deal with collective pain — there are practices of collectivizing the heart

* we can calibrate our heart but it’s one of the capacities that have been exiled

* if we don’t collectivize the heart we get overwhelmed and the pain then does not process

* pain is a teacher

* we can attach to the pain and it becomes a form of currency that establishes worth in a community

* no community is self-sufficient in terms of medicines, we need to cross pollinate

* stories as alive, as entities

* sensing sight (Dougald Hine) in vibrational attunement

* accountable autonomy rather than narcissistic freedom

* Preparing for the end of the world as we know it: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/oureconomy/preparing-end-world-we-know-it/

* imaging education in the year 2048: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rEAY3eMbNQ

* need to sober up, clean up, show up

* education is about eldership, preparing us to be good ancestors

* John Cryer, Cree elder, story of the four mountains about human development

* who you are is the medicine you carry

This episode is from our first live session with Joe Brewer, the ED of the Center for Applied Cultural Evolution and a deep systems thinker, complexity researcher and pioneer in designing bioregional pathways to earth regeneration.

Music is “In Passage" by Blue Dot Sessions

Learn more about Joe’s work: https://medium.com/@joe_brewer

https://earth-regenerators.mn.co/

Regenerative Economics in Real Life webinar with Joe:

https://www.crowdcast.io/e/regenerative-economics-in-real-life

About the podcast: https://www.astemperaturesrise.com/

Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/m/astemperaturesrise

Show notes:

* Money & Life documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3szcNsbeSc

* Planetary collapse and why decades of systems change work has not effected deep systems change

* Peter Berg, advocate for bioregionalism

* Difficult to know overall carrying capacity

* Definition of a bioregion = the region of an organisms biological existence which is different from organism to organism because of social behavior

* For humans that is/was usually the extent of a trade network

* Cultural geography, technical geography and ecological context that is shared = bioregion

* What is the living economy of locales? The carrying capacity of the local living

* Dana Meadow’s 1983 essay A Brief History of the Balaton Group: https://www.thesolutionsjournal.com/article/from-sustainability-science-to-real-world-action-a-short-history-of-the-balaton-group/

* "The pathway" for sustainability is local living economies

* Joe’s work is an update on what has been known

* History of management systems = double entry accounting that gave rise to the corporation

* Invention of railroads needed a centralized time management system to coordinate at larger (national) scale

* Organizing around time allowed scaling of the global economy (between 1850-1950)

* Since 1950 the complexity of reality has outpaced the capacity of the older management systems/paradigms and nation states have become increasingly ineffective as solving problems

* Nation states are falling away and will fall away because of this

* Network systems bypass nation states since the Internet since around 1980

* Is humanity growing up? Yes and no...

* Ecological Resilience = about interdependent relationships achieving feedbacks for self-regulation or autopoeisis for the collective

* We select cultural patterns that bring about this resilience or we don’t!

* The current information-communications system is not regenerative (huge energy hog and based on fossil fuels) and will fail

* Mesh networks that emerged during Hurricane Sandy: https://www.govtech.com/public-safety/Mesh-Networks-Keep-Residents-Connected-Outages.html

* Conservation management frameworks as a pathway to bioregional economies

* Global system is a cancer killing the bioregional systems

* Community land trusts to protect against the cancer by removing them from speculative markets

* Cultural trauma and grief to be able to do the bioregional work to be able to trust and cooperate

* The need for body-based practices e.g. capoeira

* To become a perception system for the land and elements

* Where to live and how to die

Vanessa Andreotti is an Educational studies Professor and researcher on Race, Inequalities and Global Change at the University of British Columbia. Her work focuses on the limits of the modern/colonial story of development and human evolution and the adjacent possibilities of setting our horizons beyond what we can imagine within modern institutions and ways of knowing and being.

Music is “Turning" by Blue Dot Sessions

Learn more about Vanessa’s work: https://decolonialfutures.net/

About the podcast: https://www.astemperaturesrise.com/

Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/m/astemperaturesrise

Show notes:

* We open with acknowledgments — land, technology, ancestors and the other than human

* Vanessa’s upcoming book: Hospicing Modernity

* “wording the world” vs. “worlding the world"

* language as a living entity — language moves things

* the world as a living metabolism = everything in movement and exchanging energies

* we have what we need to face the storm that is coming together if we can co-exist differently with the storm itself and be in a different way with the metabolism that is sick

* attuning to the bio-intelligence that keeps the metabolism functional for the healing of our thinking, of our feeling,cc of our relations, of the cycles of life and death

* modernity creates deficiencies in ways that deactivate capacities and rhythms (that are still there we just need to reactivate)

* our metabolism is part of a larger metabolism, the planet

* “allow the thing to thing through us"

* modernity’s ladder of mobility

* ladder of social mobility that stands on the broken backs of piling bodies of other human and non-human beings.

* "these benefits and the social mobility he sought were only made possible by the structural injustices he was trying to fight against”

* modernity creates a separation between us and the metabolism — when that separation occurs, our intrinsic value is taken from us and thus we enter cycles of trying to produce a sense of value in modernity’s economies in order to feel we are worth being alive!

* hard to criticize the ladder because it’s a compensation for something else much more profound

* creates the hamster wheel based on an affective foundation

* we are fighting over the throne when the whole palace is falling apart

* offering palliative care while we disinvest from the pleasures and so-called securities that we have enjoyed

* “modernity is delicious if you don’t know where it comes from…"

* we need to hit rock bottom

* The Bus Within Us Methodology: https://youtu.be/SyeoaVbp-ys

* if you can’t hold space for your own inner complexity, we won’t be able to hold complexity outside ourselves

* humor without complexity can be easily weaponized

* looking at what’s not beautiful and not turning the gaze, but not feeling worthless

* the moment we can see ourselves as cute and pathetic is the moment we can sit with everything and we’re ready to compost our shit

* the need to zoom out and see ourselves with humor, disassociating with our self image = the problem of self-worthlessness is gone and NOT because you have been validated

* indigenous psychoanalysis

* decluttering the affective landmines

* the difference between the call for accountability and the call for responsibility

* accountability is what are you doing with the energy from the cost of your existence = who are you indebted to?

* responsibility is knowing your medicine and when to use it

* elders are not elders for the things they’ve done right but for the things they’ve done wrong and helped us learn from their wrong doing

* the use of metaphor bypasses the defenses of the ego that have been colonized already and weaponized

* fixed form is the problem

* the need for gradual disillusionment that allows us to stay in the unknowability

* hospicing is not just the glamorous part but its about the mess, it’s about holding generative space for what’s falling apart

* education is about preparing people to become good elders and ancestors