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On this episode for our TOP TWO, we dive into what Gretchen has been learning from reading Let Them by Mel Robins and how she’s practicing showing up as her adult self—even when others are operating from their inner child. Then on this four-year anniversary of Joy losing her best friend, we talk about the difficult topic of grief--what has Joy learned about making space for the grief, how she suggests we talk about a loved one's memory with others, and how to honor someone's memory.

If you're grieving a loved one, no matter how recent or long ago, we want to invite you to honor their memory. Click "text the show" and say their name and share a memory about your person. Or say their name on our Instagram @aswegrowpod. We want to honor their memory too!

As always, we can't recommend our life coach Jenna enough. Book a session now, and tell her we sent you! 

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Today we're talking about our most recent personal book club pick The Celebration of Discipline by Richard Foster. This book is the OG of spiritual discipline books, and Joy couldn't love it more. Tune in to see if this book deserves a spot on your TBR list too, and use the link to text the show and let us know what you're reading.

OTHER MENTIONS

Last week's episode "On Spiritual Battles & God's Promises"

Joy's podcast series on Fasting

Click here to book an ridiculously affordable session with our life coach: Jenna Zint

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We're jumping right into the deep end this week and asking really hard questions.

PLEASE NOTE: We're both very vulnerable and share personal stories that are still very painful for us. If you feel you have insight you'd like to share with us, we respectfully request that you submit it after careful prayer, and take time to wrap it in kindness. Thanks in advance--you are the best listeners. Thanks for being part of our community!

Here's what we're discussing:

1. How do you reconcile when two people pray from something similar (healing, spouse, protection, etc.) but one gets their answer and the other doesn't?

2. When do you give up on a promise you thought you received from God but it didn't get fulfilled.

Whew! This one is messy and hard and doesn't get neatly tied up in a nice bow. Buckle up! 

SHOW NOTES

Rescue One More. Support them here!

Podcast

Exploring the Heart of Rest and Sabbath with John Mark Comer

Job 42:2-6

“I know that you can do anything,

    and no one can stop you.

You asked, ‘Who is this that questions my wisdom with such ignorance?’

    It is I—and I was talking about things I knew nothing about,

    things far too wonderful for me.

You said, ‘Listen and I will speak!

    I have some questions for you,

    and you must answer them.’

I had only heard about you before,

    but now I have seen you with my own eyes.

I take back everything I said,

    and I sit in dust and ashes to show my repentance.”

Books (contains affiliate links)

The Veil by Blake Healy (the audiobook is free for Spotify subscribers)

Knowledge of the Holy by A. W. Tozero

Video

Hope by Bible Project

Life Coach

Jenna Zint: Our favorite life coach. Book a session here!

Miscellaneous

Connect with Joy online.

The Mentor's Table podcast where Joy talks more about the book she's writing and fleshes out the idea of developing spiritual muscle memory.

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This week we're introducing you to our inner critics--yes, you read that right. They each have their own distinct persona. When we say they are characters, we mean, they are CHARACTERS! Listen to find if your inner critic has any common qualities with Marge or Trixie.

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SHOW NOTES

Links:

The Print Shop for your custom clothing printing needs.

Practicing the Way's "Community Practice": The small-group curriculum that Gretchen and Joy led locally. It's all free!

Ancient Jewish Meditation Literature: Bible Project video illustrating how the Bible is meant to be read out loud, with people, and then talked about. (We also highly recommend the entire Bible Project series: How To Read The Bible).

Book a session with our favorite life coach that we quote often--Jenna Zint. 

Healing the Orphan Spirit by Leif Hetland

Celebration of Discipline: The Path to Spiritual Growth by Richard Foster (the book Joy & Gretchen are currently reading)

Podcasts:

Joy's solo podcast: The Mentor's Table

Havilah's Podcast:

Cultivating Deep Adult Friendships With Havilah’s Core Group

How to Create a Core Group of Friends

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Let us know your thoughts and questions. Direct message us with the link above 👆  or comment on Instagram @aswegrowpod. 

In our inaugural episode, we start with sharing a little bit of our testimonies so you can get to know us better. Then we delve into our Top Two (one thing from Gretchen and one from Joy) that we've been learning or wrestling with. And at the end, we'll each confess something we're struggling with and then laugh about it--you won't want to miss this part! Here's the inspiration for why we laugh at our confessions.

If you're interested in reading the book Gretchen mentioned, find it here: Keep Your Love On by Danny Silk

Here's a link to a free 10-minute call with our life coach Jenna whom we both see and can't recommend enough! (She can meet on Zoom, so you don't have to live in the same state). And for coaching options with her husband or both of them together, check this out.

Here's the podcast about offense that Joy mentioned: When Pain Spoils Into Offense

Our next episdoe will drop Monday, July 28th, 2025. Subscribe now wherever you listen to podcasts. 

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Welcome to As We Grow! In this quick intro episode we introduce ourselves (Joy & Gretchen) and tell you a little bit about what to expect. We look forward to growing with you!

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