In this episode, we take a deeper look at stage 3 in the stages of faith – "Come and Be With Me." How do we move people toward sacrifice? The challenge for churches looking to help move people deeper into and through this stage is that it is about "being" rather than "doing."
Greg Hawkins joins us for the discussion. He was on staff at Willow Creek for 22 years, and is the co-founder of REVEAL research. He's the author of five books, including Move and More. He's currently on staff at Oak Hills Church in San Antonio, TX, working with Senior Minister Max Lucado.