ASYMMETRIC

ASYMMETRIC

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ASYMMETRIC episodes

  • Why Join Startups: Wealth or Status, Employee vs. Owner Mindset, ESOP Allocation, and More

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Revant: Founder, Mosaic Wellness

    Shantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Chirag: Founder, GoKwik

    0:00 Coming Up

    0:49 Intro

    1:44 Two Motives: Wealth vs Status

    11:30 Key Drivers for Different Roles

    19:17 Personal Branding for Founders

    28:26 Can Founders Solve for Emotional Needs?

    30:46 Managing Employee Expectations about Wealth

    40:01 Who Should Get ESOPs?

    44:13 Zomato: Playing the Wealth Game

    50:30 Delinking Your Different Roles

    59:10 Founders Must Help Employees Play Wealth Games

    65:30 Off-Screen Banter: Pickleball & Status

    67:47 Off-Screen Banter: Cult.Fit

    Naval's tweet:

    https://x.com/naval/status/1002103360646823936

    1 hr 19 min
  • Deepak Garg on US Bitcoin Push & Swiggy’s Q4 FY25 Results

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Revant Bhate: Founder, Mosaic Wellness

    Shantanu Deshpande: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Deepak Garg: Founder at AnywhereJobs

    00:00 Coming up

    01:24 Intro and Welcome Deepak!

    03:55 Understanding Bitcoin Treasury Companies

    06:01 Bitcoin vs Gold: What’s Actually Scarcer Now

    09:04 The Future of Currency: Gold, Bitcoin, and the Dollar

    12:07 Can India Really Build Wealth in This Global System?

    15:10 Why stablecoins matter in the US

    34:04 Currency wars and global monetary power

    37:31 Liquidity & Market Dynamics

    41:02 Macro trends and founder decision-making

    45:48 The Evolution of Consumer Tech and Market Competition

    51:54 Understanding Market Cycles Through Historical Context

    56:56 Zomato vs. Swiggy: The Battle for Market Share

    01:10:16 The Importance of Narrative in Business

    01:13:01 Market Dynamics and Competition in Quick Commerce

    01:16:38 Using consumer data to drive innovation

    01:21:39 The Future of E-commerce & Quick Commerce

    01:25:55 The Economics of Quick Commerce

    01:29:12 Investor Sentiment in the current market

    01:32:13 Founder Longevity, Team Building & Scaling Vision

    Swiggy Q4 FY25 Results:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xv5gK0ZrD6A-M3HR0AOVhRwj4EMUTEIzdmkdekYMvCc/edit?gid=0#gid=0

    1 hr 39 min
  • Urban Company DRHP, Tariffs & Dark Patterns in India’s Startup Landscape with Tushar Behl

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Revant Bhate: Founder, Mosaic Wellness

    Shantanu Deshpande: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Chirag Taneja: Founder, GoKwik

    Tushar Behl: Principal at Glade Brook Capital

    0:00 Coming Up

    1:02 India-Pakistan Escalation

    1:48 Intro and Welcome to Tushar!

    2:39 Equity Supply Demand

    9:11 On US vs Indian IPOs

    15:03 Impact of Tariffs on India

    21:47 Can Tariffs Drive Innovation in India?

    27:48 Venture Capital for Traditional Sectors

    34:53 Indian Consumer Brands on the Global Stage

    44:18 On Urban Company

    49:42 Urban Company’s NTV Retention for Services

    53:17 Urban Company’s Native Lock & Water Purifier

    58:29 On Urban Company’s Founders & Future

    1:10:37 Dark Patterns with UPI

    Notes from the episode:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E1fY4ZOfiuhYZ9P1Ij2TNCwlT-zesyuf/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=108238023930083113573&rtpof=true&sd=true

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1owIajfNCMPqLwjbR6SrV1-GqnBhD-Z3d/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=108238023930083113573&rtpof=true&sd=true

    1 hr 19 min
  • Z47 (Matrix Partners) MD, Tarun Davda, on Founder Salaries, Board Meetings, & All Things GOVERNANCE

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Revant: Founder, Mosaic Wellness

    Shantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Chirag: Founder, GoKwik

    Tarun Davda: Managing Director at Z47

    00:00 Coming Up

    00:55 Intro and Welcome to Tarun!

    2:22 Context for the Topic

    4:52 USA vs India Board Cultures

    10:36 The Debate on Taking Board Seats

    16:46 Thoughts on Governance

    23:49 The Slippery Slope to Malpractice

    27:39 Thoughts on Founder Salary

    41:25 Ex-Operators as Board Members

    43:27 Do VCs and Investors Add Value?

    50:54 How Founders Can Derive Value from VCs

    1:00:44 Good vs Bad Board Meetings

    1:08:46 When Founders Can’t Choose their VCs

    1:14:47 How to Leverage Board Meetings

    1:21:59 Thoughts on Involving Key Members in Board Meetings

    1:25:40 Building the Founder VC Relationship

    1:33:19 How Prescriptive Should Investors Be?

    1:42:25 Thoughts on Investing in the Competition

    1:49:57 Rethinking the Investor Role

    Notes from the episode:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qYpDvsmMzAOX1svq-j67FYyI0x3rr48_/view?usp=sharing

    1 hr 56 min
  • Decoding IPL: Is it sport, business, or just media & entertainment?

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Revant: Founder, Mosaic Wellness

    Shantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Chirag: Founder, GoKwik

    0:00 Coming Up

    1:32 Intro

    2:38 BSC and IPL

    4:49 Context on IPL

    6:36 IPL’s Business Model

    11:36 The Player vs The Team

    13:54 Can International Players Get Big in IPL?

    16:25 Passion or Money?

    24:50 Global Cricket Revenue Trends

    26:40 Extensions of IPL Franchisees

    28:30 What Is the Future of Cricket?

    33:18 Indianisation of International Players

    35:35 Does It Matter If You Win or Lose?

    38:55 Evolution in Sports

    42:21 IPL vs EPL

    49:11 Supporting a Team vs a Player

    53:34 The Startups Opportunity

    59:20 The Guru Culture in Academies

    62:57 Concluding Thoughts

    66:00 Off Screen Banter

    Charts referred to in the episode:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qjn7UGy7RXuwklp3rrn03ie9n-PrVFdE/view?usp=drive_link

    1 hr 13 min
  • Decoding IPL: Is it sport, business, or just media & entertainment?

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Revant: Founder, Mosaic Wellness

    Shantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Chirag: Founder, GoKwik

    0:00 Coming Up

    1:32 Intro

    2:38 BSC and IPL

    4:49 Context on IPL

    6:36 IPL’s Business Model

    11:36 The Player vs The Team

    13:54 Can International Players Get Big in IPL?

    16:25 Passion or Money?

    24:50 Global Cricket Revenue Trends

    26:40 Extensions of IPL Franchisees

    28:30 What Is the Future of Cricket?

    33:18 Indianisation of International Players

    35:35 Does It Matter If You Win or Lose?

    38:55 Evolution in Sports

    42:21 IPL vs EPL

    49:11 Supporting a Team vs a Player

    53:34 The Startups Opportunity

    59:20 The Guru Culture in Academies

    62:57 Concluding Thoughts

    66:00 Off Screen Banter

    Charts referred to in the episode:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qjn7UGy7RXuwklp3rrn03ie9n-PrVFdE/view?usp=drive_link

    1 hr 13 min
  • Road to IPO for VC-backed Startups with Kashyap Chanchani (Managing Partner, TRMG)

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Revant: Founder, Mosaic Wellness

    Shantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Chirag: Founder, GoKwik

    Kashyap Chanchani: Managing Partner, TRMG

    0:00 Coming Up

    1:15 Intro

    3:10 Context for the report

    7:30 Double Clicking on EBITDA

    12:48 The Familiarity Factor

    18:33 2021’s Cash Liquidity vs 2025’s Cash Crunch

    25:53 Underwriting Past vs Future Performance

    33:11 Family Owned vs VC Companies

    41:51 IPOs and CapTables

    49:50 Understanding VC Exits during IPOs

    54:07 Size of Listing - Does it Matter?

    01:09:51 The Importance of Being First in Market

    01:10:11 Q-Comm and Ed-Tech

    01:23:23 The Future of M&A in India

    TRMG reports:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AwbdwYY_HvbxfPW0n5xwvRypgwtnd6Qo/view?usp=drive_link

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xx5NGzoa8IKIJTBABWLm5BDTSIhNOc5U/view?usp=drive_link

    1 hr 35 min
  • Trump Tariffs and Startup IPOs | With CIO of Aditya Birla MF

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Shantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Chirag: Founder, GoKwik

    Harish Krishnan: Co-CIO and Head(Equity), Aditya Birla Sun Life Mutual Fund (ABSLMF)

    1:43 Intro

    3:49 Trump’s Tariffs - A Synopsis

    7:44 Understanding Donald Trump

    11:49 The Endgame for Trump

    16:25 More Tariffs → More Investments?

    22:28 Challenges Ahead for Trump

    26:41 Opportunities for India

    32:42 Thoughts on 2021’s Cash Influx and New-Age IPOs

    38:26 How Private vs Public Capital Works

    49:09 Growth - The Good & Bad

    54:15 Index Devisers

    57:54 The Problem of Plenty

    1:02:58 Public Investors and Risk Taking

    1:08:40 Closing Thoughts

    Links referred to in the episode:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E4glaVlyx24ipSYhieurOdu-KO1SkNAD/view?usp=drive_link

    https://hktg13.substack.com/p/mind-the-gap

    1 hr 16 min
  • Meesho's AI Unlock to $1 Billion Revenue and 4 Million Orders per Day

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Revant: Founder, Mosaic Wellness

    Shantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Chirag: Founder, GoKwik

    0:00 Coming Up

    1:09 Intro

    2:27 Reflections on Quarter End

    5:22 Creating Markets vs Capturing Market Share

    10:38 Challenges with Market Creation

    15:01 Meesho’s Standout Execution in Bharat

    19:57 Meesho’s Logistics Strategy

    25:25 Meesho’s Cultural Strategy

    27:10 How Meesho Cut Its Burn

    37:53 Meesho’s AI Adoption

    43:31 Rethinking with AI

    48:36 AI Use Case: MIS Data Dumps

    54:10 Individual Agency & AI Adoption

    58:11 AI Use Case - SEO & Email Marketing

    1:00:43 AI Impact Across Functions

    1:03:45 AI Use Case: HR Performance Reviews

    1:05:50 AI for Work-Life Balance & Health

    1:11:58 Off-Screen Cricket Banter

    1 hr 15 min
  • Good Glamm Distress and Decoding the Failure of Thrasio Clones in India

    The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:

    Shantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Chirag: Founder, GoKwik

    Nikhil Vora: Founder & CEO at Sixth Sense Ventures

    0:00 Coming Up

    1:21 Intro & Welcome to Nikhil Vora

    3:03 The Thrasio Story

    7:50 India’s Thrasio Clones

    11:37 Why Didn’t Thrasio Models Work?

    15:05 Is There Merit to The “House of Brands” Brands

    18:37 The Opportunity for Consumer Companies

    24:30 How to Think About Consolidating Businesses

    30:34 Acquisition By Legacy Companies

    33:23 Dealing with Capital Influx Waves

    37:21 Why Don’t “Good” MnAs Not Happen in India?

    41:40 The Need for Patient Capital

    44:39 What Drives Founder-Market Fit?

    48:51 The JusPay Curveball

    54:39 Views on The Indian Ecosystem

    The Thrasio Effect ppt:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z8t7nNO3FRlc_L_vkr5rV1gVvqgI0VZ5/view?usp=sharing

    1 hr

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Welcome to ASYMMETRIC Podcast! :)

We are three friends who will every Friday discuss happenings during the week across startups, business, tech, social and political.

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