At This Time

At This Time, career coach Jennifer Logue drops the mic on job-search advice: there's no cheat code, no magic script — just you, being unapologetically yourself. After 15+ years in journalism and advertising, Jennifer now helps people stop blindly applying and start reflecting on what actually energizes them (hint: it's not the SAT-style interview prep everyone's doing). She breaks down why treating yourself like the CEO of your own career — non-negotiables and all — changes the entire game. Oh, and her secret weapon? Listening skills she picked up as a musician.

Host: Eric DeSobe; add him on LinkedIn

At This Time, Fastflow's Jenks Currie and Francisco Shirazi explain why the future of frontline hiring lives in your text messages, not your inbox. They break down how candidates go from QR code scan to fully onboarded without ever leaving a chat thread — and why that single shift is landing with everyone from barbershops to construction crews to school districts. Plus, a refreshingly honest take on AI's actual job in recruiting: making conversations feel human, not replacing the humans who make the decisions. If your ATS still routes candidates through their email, this episode is worth your time.

Host: Eric DeSobe; add him on LinkedIn

Hey, we're back for Season 2. After 58 episodes in Season 1, stay tuned for more great guest talking talent and recruitment.

At This Time ... hiring fraud has officially leveled up — and your gut instincts aren't enough anymore. Maryam, founder of Attesto, joins Eric to break down how sophisticated fraudsters are now slipping past background checks and LinkedIn verification with fully fabricated (but convincing) identities. From North Korean operatives trying to infiltrate companies to deepfake impersonators acing your interview process, the threat is real — and quietly expensive. Maryam walks through how Attesto's AI-powered trust layer analyzes hundreds of signals (IP address, phone type, email footprint, and more) to catch what human recruiters simply can't — before a bad hire costs you $700K or your company's IP.

Attesto is the trust layer for hiring and is focused on bringing greater integrity and confidence to modern recruiting workflows. We partner closely with talent acquisition teams to detect fraudulent applications, synthetic candidate profiles, and other trust-related risks that are becoming increasingly prevalent as hiring becomes more digital and AI-driven. The work sits at the intersection of recruiting operations, identity, risk, and candidate experience.

Host: Eric DeSobe; add him on LinkedIn

At This Time, Eric sits down with longtime colleague and friendly rival Nicole Wellman Noble — a charter school talent veteran who traded her in-house seat at Bright Star for the consultant life. Nicole gets real about what it actually takes to make that jump (hint: it's more than just a LinkedIn rebrand), why imposter syndrome never fully disappears, and how her work is evolving alongside some of the most heated contract negotiations happening in LA and beyond. If you're in talent, education, or just curious about what it looks like to bet on yourself — this one's for you.

Host: Eric DeSobe; add him on LinkedIn

At This Time, Eric DeSobe sits down with talent expert and reality TV enthusiast Joanna Belcher to unpack the hiring lessons hidden inside the Bachelorette's season cancellation — and yes, it gets surprisingly insightful. From the "always be cultivating" mindset to the game-changing 10-reference strategy, Joanna breaks down why charisma and ratings potential (in TV and hiring) can blind you to red flags hiding in plain sight. She makes a compelling case for why self-awareness and candid feedback are the two most underrated traits in any candidate — and any leader. Whether you're casting a reality show or building a team, this one's got receipts.

Host: Eric DeSobe; add him on LinkedIn

At This Time, we're diving into one of the most niche — and fascinating — hiring challenges in education: recruiting Mandarin-fluent teachers from overseas. Henry Liu, Director of Talent & HR at Yu Ming Charter School, one of California's top public schools, breaks down what it actually takes to hire internationally, navigate visa sponsorships, and set teachers up for success in a U.S. classroom they've never stepped foot in before.

Host: Eric DeSobe; add him on LinkedIn

At This Time ... we're sitting down with Dave Tassone, a former Teach For America educator turned healthcare talent leader, who made a career pivot that most people wouldn't see coming — from charter school management to a mental health agency serving people navigating the criminal justice system. Dave shares how a bond with a student who became incarcerated during his first year of teaching never quite left him, and eventually pulled him toward this work years later. Now heading up people & culture at Project 180 LA, he's building a team from scratch in one of the most mission-driven environments around. We also get into AI slop in job applications (yes, someone submitted a resume with the ChatGPT prompt still in it), how AI is quietly revolutionizing clinical documentation, and why change management in a multigenerational workforce is the real challenge nobody's talking about.

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At This Time... Emily Gaines, Head of Talent, HR & Learning at SESI Schools, joins us for a candid conversation about building an HR function from scratch across 16 states, hiring 2,500 specialized education employees a year, and why going fast too soon almost cost her everything. She breaks down SESI's AI-powered phone screening tool — processing 50,000–70,000 applications annually — and shares why the retention data genuinely surprised her. But the real kicker? After all that AI talk, Emily will tell you straight: no algorithm is saving a bad candidate in a live interview.

Host: Eric DeSobe; add him on LinkedIn

At This Time ... Zainab Ali breaks down fresh survey data on what really drives teachers’ decisions — and spoiler alert: it’s not flashy perks. It’s the basics done well: fair pay, safety, coaching, stability, growth, and transparency.

But here’s the kicker — a surprising number of young teachers don’t even know what a charter school is. If educators can’t clearly see who you are or what you offer, they can’t choose you. This episode is a wake-up call for leaders to stop chasing shiny initiatives and start communicating what actually matters.

Host: Eric DeSobe; add him on LinkedIn