A conversation recorded at the workshop “What’s Leadership got to do with it” November 10-11, 2015 with two Tällberg Foundation Global Leaders, Jamila Afghani, Jason Glaser and musician activist Ramy Essam moderated by Muni Figueres, former Ambassador of Costa Rica to the US and Tällberg Foundation board member. How and why did they decide to act and become an activist? How did thy make the transition from being a private person to a public person, an activist?