In this episode of What’s the DEIL? Shanté and Natalie break down the difference between performative DEI and actual, lawful, impactful action. With anti-DEI rhetoric making headlines and fear running high across corporate America, this episode offers a practical, clear-eyed path forward for organizations who are feeling the pressure to “do something” but aren’t quite sure what.

Rather than reacting to political panic or folding to fear-based headlines, the hosts advocate for a proactive approach: a comprehensive workplace audit to ensure your people practices are legally compliant, inclusive in reality (not just in branding), and truly aligned with your company’s values.

Here’s what we cover:

• Why so many DEI efforts have been reduced to performative gestures
• The difference between assessments (proactive) and audits (reactive) and why both matter
• What’s really behind today’s culture of fear around DEI programs
• The legal framework you should be focused on. Hint: Title VII still matters
• Why some leaders are unknowingly putting themselves at legal risk
• How to build workplace culture initiatives that are inclusive, strategic, and sustainable
• What your audit should include, from pay equity to promotion pathways to training
• Why internal messaging needs to match external narrative (and how misalignment can backfire)

Plus, we unpack:

• Why your DEI statements shouldn’t say more than your actions can prove
• The number one workplace culture issue that everyone (yes, everyone) faces
• How fear leads organizations to make decisions that aren’t in their own best interest
• What success looks like when DEI is embedded, not bolted on

Whether you’re a CHRO, DEI lead, general counsel, or senior executive just trying to do the right thing, this episode is your blueprint for how to move from optics to integrity.

Bottom line: Your DEI work shouldn’t just sound good. It should be good and legal. Auditing your practices is how you find out if you’re walking the talk.

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• Follow Natalie Norfus on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalienorfus/. 
• Follow Shante Gordon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shantegordon/. 
• We’ve led hundreds of audits, assessments, and people strategy engagements and we’d love to help your organization. Book a consultation with The Norfus Firm: https://thenorfusfirm.com/. 
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