Two Types of People with Pat Sitkins

Austin Tovey: Wired for More


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Austin Tovey isn’t asking for permission to live his life, and this episode has one overarching theme - taking ownership.

Professional foilboarder, innovator, and waterman Austin Tovey joins Pat Sitkins to talk about the evolution of foiling, the freedom found in the ocean, and the mindset required to keep progressing when most people stop.

From his early days with now fellow pro rider Noah Flegel, designing his own pro model board with Armstrong Foils to interactions with legends like Jerry Lopez and Mickey Munoz, Austin shares how discomfort, ownership, and obsession have shaped both his sport and his life.

This episode dives into accountability, persistence, mental resilience, and the difference between people who embrace hard things… and people who spend their lives avoiding them.

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Main Themes

  • Taking full ownership of your life
  • Embracing discomfort voluntarily
  • Constant progression vs stagnation
  • Nature as therapy and reset
  • Innovation in foiling and water sports
  • Learning from legends
  • Staying in the game long enough to break through
  • Quotable Moments

    “There are no bad waves. Only poor equipment and a lousy attitude.”

    “Once it clicks and you get that bug… you’re locked in.”

    “You must persevere and keep pushing until you accomplish it.”

    “All my days are better now because of foil.”

    “Some people don’t want to look bad at something new.”

    Chapters

    00:00 — The Pro Model Board & Building Something to Last

    05:56 — Why Water Changes Everything
    10:15 — Laird Hamilton, Noah Flegel, Jerry Lopez & Pushing the Sport Forward
    17:57 — No Bad Waves, Just Bad Attitudes
    23:10 — Full Ownership vs Blame
    25:35 — Why Discomfort Matters
    27:43 — Staying in the Game Long Enough to Break Through
    31:38 — Austin’s Hype Song & Final Thoughts

    About the Show

    Two Types of People is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by Bestselling Author, Agency CEO, and Executive Producer Pat Sitkins - exploring the patterns, decisions, and mindsets that shape high performers across business, sports, and culture.

    The show features conversations with contributors to the book Two Types of People: Insights from Top Performers to Help You Make Decisions, Act, and Grow and other leaders whose experiences bring the framework to life. The book is currently available for pre-order at all major retailers. 


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