Join Karin Holley, a certified leadership and mindset coach, in this episode of the Authentic Pathways interview series as she discusses the intricacies of systems thinking with Erica Engelen, an expert in organizational dynamics and team topologies valued practitioner.

This conversation delves into the importance of understanding systems holistically and the challenges of working in team environments. They explore the impact of current business and educational systems on society and how we can proactively shift them for the better. With insights into relationship systems coaching and real-world examples from organizations like Blue Lagoon, this episode emphasizes creating psychologically safe environments and fostering interdisciplinary collaboration to drive innovation and positive change.

Tune in to spark new ideas and explore how systems thinking can shape a more adaptable and humane future.

00:00 Introduction to Authentic Pathways

00:29 Challenges in Team Dynamics

01:17 Meet Erica Engelen: Organizational Dynamics Expert

03:30 Defining Systems in Organizations and Society

06:23 Problems with Current Systems

11:13 The Importance of Interdisciplinary Learning

18:29 Encouraging Psychological Safety and Innovation

23:51 Practical Applications in Organizations

31:24 Applying Systems Thinking in Education

51:49 Final Thoughts and Future Conversations

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