The Tactical Leader

Author Talk with Admiral James Stavridis


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How can fiction help us avoid catastrophic futures and shape a better world for generations to come?

In episode 443, Admiral James Stavridis shares insights from his latest novel, "2054," the second installment in a cautionary fiction trilogy. He shares the potential impact of artificial intelligence on society and the military, the need for sovereign states to control this powerful technology, and the importance of bridging political divides to address the challenges facing our nation. Through his writing, Admiral Stavridis aims to inspire readers to imagine dangerous futures and work towards reverse-engineering them to avoid potential catastrophes.


[00:00 - 12:30] The Power of Cautionary Fiction

  • Introduction of the Moderator Rickey Bevington
  • Introduction of Admiral James Stavridis
  • Admiral Stavridis explains his motivation for writing cautionary fiction novels


[12:31 - 23:21] The Purpose of the Trilogy

  • The trilogy explores the challenges of the 21st century, including war, AI, and climate change
  • Difference between predictive fiction and cautionary fiction
  • Why use fiction to deliver this message?


[23:22 - 27:58] The Singularity and the Future of AI

  • The concept of the singularity, where biology merges with technology, is introduced
  • AI has the potential to be both enormously beneficial and malevolent
  • The novel explores the implications of AI and the race between nations to control it


[27:59 - 00:35:45] The Future of Geopolitical Power and AI Control

  • Non-state actors, such as big tech and criminal enterprises, are now in the sandbox with governments
  • The importance of controlling AI early 
  • The U.S. is in a foot race with China regarding AI


[35:46 - 42:12] The Need for a Cyber Force

  • The importance of creating a dedicated cyber force within the U.S. military
  • The military faces challenges in recruiting due to competition with the civilian economy
  • Despite the difficulties, young men and women will continue to serve their country


[42:13 - 48:43] Finding Hope in a Divided Nation

  • The U.S. will find its way out of the current political divisions
  • He emphasizes the importance of listening to the other side and engaging in civil conversations
  • The path forward lies in finding candidates who are willing to reach across the aisle and generate compromise
  • The third book in the trilogy, "2084," explores the effects of climate change on geopolitics

Key quotes: 


"Like all new technologies, AI can be of enormous benefit and it can be enormously malevolent." - Admiral James Stavridis


"The path is not in surrendering your positions on policies. It's about listening to the other side." - Admiral James Stavridis


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