Authors Lance Ford and Rob Wegner join LAB: The Podcast for a conversation on their new book, The Starfish and the Spirit. We talk old power vs. new power and the winds of change blowing through leadership in the church and in culture. I can’t wait to introduce you to a couple of humble and wise leaders and a fantastic new book. For more information on the book or to connect with Lance and Rob, visit: www.thestarfishandthespirit.com.

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