"It turns out its a lot easier than I thought. Remembering those things as a kid that made me happy, walking outside in nature, looking at ants under a microscope, starring at the stars at night. Walking through the world with a sense of wonder, very focused on the moment isn't that cool that is autistic joy," says Johnny Knapp. Johnny joins us for this episode to discuss autistic joy and then at the end of the episode discusses the systemic problem of being autistic and interacting with police.