Not to Forgive, but to Understand

Ava Homa: On Kurdish Identity and Social Fragmentation in Iran


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In this episode, we speak with Ava Homa—award-winning author of Daughters of Smoke and Fire and Echoes from the Other Land—about Kurdish identity, structural violence, and the cycles of oppression in Iran. Homa discusses the intersection of literature and activism, the emotional and political risks of storytelling, and the global forces that shape—and often distort—struggles for justice. With questions from hosts and a special contribution by Kurdish poet Sarwa Azeez, the conversation moves from personal to geopolitical, examining how resistance, complicity, and survival co-exist in authoritarian contexts.

Chapter Timestamps & Titles

00:00 - Opening and Introduction  

01:49 - The Emotional Core of "Daughters of Smoke and Fire*" 

03:09 - Moral Ambiguity and Structural Violence  

05:44 - Beauty as Power, Punishment, and Survival  

09:28 - Fiction, Nonfiction, and Political Mythologies  

11:42 - Regime Repetition and Global Complicity  

15:43 - Kurdish Abandonment and Western Hypocrisy  

19:05 - Civil Society and the Future of Iran  

22:10 - Nationalism, Trauma, and Regime Control  

24:33 - Western Narratives of Unity After Violence  

28:32 - Personal Risk in Telling the Story  

30:24 - Responding to War from Within the Oppressed  

33:40 - On Calls for Regime Change  

35:59 - Advice to U.S. Minority Communities  

38:46 - Kurdish Identity and the Broader Iranian Struggle  

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Not to Forgive, but to UnderstandBy Sabah Carrim and Luis Gonzalez-Aponte